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Front Shock - Lower Bolts
I have an 1985 300D. I've DIY'd US and Japanese cars for many years. This is my first German car and I love it.
The bottom bolts on the front shocks have what look like 12 lobes. My shop manual calls these "double hex bolts". I've never encountered them before. What are they? What kind of socket do I buy? It's kind of funny because I'm rebuilding the suspension/steering and this is the only place I got stuck. I needed the shock out of the way so I sawzalled it off, but I still need the stump removed. Last edited by sethgold; 05-14-2009 at 10:30 PM. |
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You did not say which Shop Manual you have; but, even the Mercedes manual has mistakes in the text (from translation?) or they have different names for things than we do.
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Thanks. I'll try that.
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Fun with front shocks
Unless a previous owner installed the current shock with different type of hardware like a splined head bolt or something odd like that, you should be able to remove the shock without destroying it. MBZ used a double hex(12 Pt) head bolt for a reason. To remove or install the shock you will need a 12 point closed end wrench. Access is pretty tight. Get one bolt removed and have to twist the shock into or out of place and then get the other bolt moving. Turning the bolts takes a while because you can only turn it a few degrees at a time because of clearances in that area. Again thats why the 12 Pt head on the bolt. It would be much more difficult with a 6 Pt head on the bolt.
That was my experience with it. EddieE "87 300SDL 325K and dead in my driveway.......again |
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If you are using a 12-point wrench, it makes absolutely no difference whether the bolt head has six points or twelve. The wrench still has to move 30 degrees for the next "bite."
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New front shocks come with a 12 point thin walled 10mm socket, the key being thin walled.
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I could not locate a thin walled socket and was able to remove and reinstall the bolts with a small 10mm open end wrench
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That's not possible on a 12 pt. fastener. I presume that you utilized a box wrench.
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Some, not all. Mine didn't.
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The intuitive feel of removing those bolts told me I could get much smaller increments of movement than with a 6 point bolt.
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I had room on the SD to remove them with a socket and extension. Remove the outer one, Tip the shock out wards, and remove the innner one. Install inner, Compress shock and place in mounting hole, install outer bolt, faten top of shock.
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Much like a pound of lead seems heavier than a pound of feathers, I suppose. |
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Sorry, must be cost cuts, both sets of Bilstein's I bought did.
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