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1985 Mercedes 300SD makes clunking noise when shifting back to 1st
Hey guys I have a 1985 Mercedes 300sd that I just bought, engine sounds perfect and has very good power with 285k miles. I'm having an issue were the car makes a horrible clunking sound when its downshifting to 1st gear, and also when it shifts from 2 to 3rd clunks but not as bad. At first I thought it was the transmission but It seems to me like the clunking is coming from the rear. Also when i'm driving on the freeway there is a vibration at high speeds starting at 50mph, even my steering wheel shakes pretty badly. Another funny thing (aside) is that when I hit 15-20mph there is some sort of funky wobble on the car...but maybe thats just alignment issues? Anyways if someone can point me in the right direction on what might be the cause of this clunking....I'll be eternally grateful !!
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Check out the drive-shaft flex-discs, and the centre bearing..
You REALLY dont want one of those to fail, It'll wreck your whole day! The steering wheel wobble at 50 sounds to be wheel balance issues.... Clunking could be loose bolts on flex-discs, play in the diff or CV joints, loosness in rear suspension members, say--bushes, could be many things... --Might be that the trans. is shifting a little harshly due to Vac. issues...
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These sound to me like several different issues. I would check the flex discs as mentioned above. The down shift clunk is usually an issue of not enough vaccum to the tranny- so look for a leak in the lines or measure what your pump is putting out. There are several good threads on how to do this- including adjusting the modulator pressure. I have had the same issue when my vac pump was dieing.
The vibration is most likely a wheel balance issue.
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If your vac setup is correct on your tranny, look very closely at the axle half shafts. I worked on my TD for months trying to get my vac system to remove the clunck when it shifted with no luck. It turned out that a chinese replacement axle was junk and causing the problem even though the boots on the cv looked good.
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Don't know temperatures where you are but downshift clunks are often caused by vacuum leaks. You can check to see if those leaks are in the climate control system by pushing in the far right button of the climate control to turn it off. If the clunking goes away, the leak is in the climate control system somewhere.
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I talked to a friend of mine today who is "mechanic oriented" he said it sounds to him like it could be the flex discs or center support bearing. Its a really loud metal clunk when I slow down to 10-5 mph. I ordered the flex discs and center support bearing already online, does anyone know how much I can expect to pay for this repair so I won't get ripped off? I live in California by the way.
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The clunk is caused by the vacuum modulator and its adjustment. If it is bad it is a $50 part and takes about 30 mins to replace.
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I see this thread is old (but so am I) - my clunk is seasonal. During the week or so of cold weather (below about 50°) here in Florida, my 300SD clunks so hard on slowing and downshifting to 1st, that I have to check the rearview mirror to make sure I haven't been rearended. I see the roots of this thread point to either flexdisk (rear suspension issues) or vacuum regulator. Which of these might best fit the scenario of clunking only when the ambient temp (not the engine temp) is cold? Thanks
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Look at the line to your modulator. You need vac for a smooth downshift. Maybe the vac line came off at the tranny or under the hood - or possibly the rubber connector under the hood is leaking. This is the easiest thing to check.
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Flexdisks are susceptible to ambient temperature changes.
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