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Old 05-06-2010, 02:21 PM
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Do-It-Yourself Garage in Milwaukee

Yes, I'm kind of affiliated, know one of the owners, but thought that you Milwaukee types might be interested in checking it out:

http://www.handsongarage.com/

Just opened, Autozone inside too. Wish I'd have thought of it.

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Old 05-06-2010, 02:27 PM
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Not bad- Kinda like the Hobby Shop on base. I often wish there was something like that here, I could use a lift on occasion.
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:29 PM
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Now that is one Sweet Idea, Too bad they dont have that here... i would LOVE it
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Not bad- Kinda like the Hobby Shop on base.
Except for the price!!!
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:44 PM
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:17 PM
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The insurance liability and risk on a place like this would have to be massive. One serious injury or dead incident and you'd likely be out of business. The exposure to risk may not be what some think it would be.

On a side note; every time I've used the MBCA's MB dealer sponsored DIY clinicals - it crosses my mind as to the dealership's inherent risk letting totally inexperienced non-employees having a field day - turned loose with their lifts, facilities - etc.
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:19 PM
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They had a number of similar types in the LA area yrs ago. ALL of them closed due to insurance issues.

Would YOU want to be working next to a lift in use by a guy who has to ask which way to turn the oil drain plug with his crescent wrench ??
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:24 PM
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They had a number of similar types in the LA area yrs ago. ALL of them closed due to insurance issues.

Would YOU want to be working next to a lift in use by a guy who has to ask which way to turn the oil drain plug with his crescent wrench ??
Precisely......last time I changed out my trans. fluid/gasket/sending unit/filter on my E300TD, I was on my own to figure out how the two-stanchion, four-point lift worked. I finally had to ask an MB tech. for a little instructions to get it to work.
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Old 05-06-2010, 04:13 PM
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Joe that was my first thought. after going through automotive school, it took a week worth of training every semester in every class to go over the tools & safety information and pass a safety test, and then you still had to sign a waver in order to work in the shop. It was a PITA each semester, but we never had any injuries.

It doesn't seem safe having prople just drive in and start lifting cars. maybe if there was a tech in each bay and he was the one lifting the car... but if you are paying for a tech in each bay why not just have him do the work... if you are getting techs just to sit there and operate the lift, what kind of techs are you hiring, they can't be worth their salt.

I do like the Idea, maybe if it were the 50s and people weren't suing over hot coffee
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Old 05-06-2010, 06:54 PM
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Joe that was my first thought. after going through automotive school, it took a week worth of training every semester in every class to go over the tools & safety information and pass a safety test, and then you still had to sign a waver in order to work in the shop. It was a PITA each semester, but we never had any injuries.

It doesn't seem safe having prople just drive in and start lifting cars. maybe if there was a tech in each bay and he was the one lifting the car... but if you are paying for a tech in each bay why not just have him do the work... if you are getting techs just to sit there and operate the lift, what kind of techs are you hiring, they can't be worth their salt.

I do like the Idea, maybe if it were the 50s and people weren't suing over hot coffee
Good points, Nik.

In my field of endeavor - architectural industry - I havw to practice OSHA standards, as well as Army Corps of Engineers policies for eye protection, hardhat, respirator, and gloves (if necessary) steel-toed work boots that extend over the ankle, etc. before we are allowed on the jobsites.

I never attended technical school, but it has become one of my interests - to be a parts replacer automotively for money. I don't know that I would have the physical stamina necessary to persevere an eight or ten hour day - would be my only drawback. Even though I have been working out cardio-wise and lifting weights (weight resistance training) for over 25 years almost daily.

At an MBCA DIY wrenching session at an authorized Mercedes-Benz dealer - you just take a bay and have-at-it. I do wear eye and hand protection - but that's it, and it's my choice. Some really points points - to be sure.

My admiration goes out to the real mechanics (technicians) out there!
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:05 PM
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There used to be a place in Tucson like that in about 1970 -- on the Miracle Mile close to my home. I used it occasionally for times when I needed a lift. I'm sure the insurance would be unreasonably expensive today, perhaps impossible to get due to the liability issues.

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Old 05-06-2010, 08:27 PM
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Ah I would love to be able to use a lift. A lift is like the nirvana of automotive repair.
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maybe they got a deal and are using a bunch of older drive on alignment racks with swing up secondary lifts. That, or pits. Still, a rack like that is more complicated than a regular lift, however easier to drive onto. And a pit has the risk of driving into it. maybe they don't have liability insurance? I know a number of shops where I am that don't carry it for cost reasons. Its not required here. God help them if someone dies though.

Don't think this is long lived though, better use it while the opportunity exists. Plenty of trained mechanics hurt themselves all the time after undergoing extensive safety training. All it will take is one car falling off a lift sideways and rolling into the support over the guy under it.

While I was in tech school, A guy accidentally activated the lift with his a$$ while he was grinding on a bench, and brought it up under his honda with none of the arms out. (central single post) the thing lifted up to about 40 degrees on its nose before anyone noticed it, then slid and did a lot of damage to itself. Fortunately it was brought down easily enough. This happened with about 30 tech teachers roaming around. Bad stuff happens fast.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:48 PM
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That is pretty cool, but I like to have my own disorganized facility. Makes it more exciting. Plus, I waste time....so it'd get really expensive there.
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I go down to the redneck muffler place if I need to borrow a lift. I've worked my way in by buying beers when they were broke. Father-in-law was in the airforce in TX & could use a bay on the base. Unfortunately, he died after his Ranchero was done except for paint. He never got it on the road.

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