Ok, I have the chance to buy a 87 300TD.

200k miles, #14 head. Guys willing to drive it 2 hours to me for the sale. original faded paint, standard issues (bad vac pods etc) whole car for 1600 bucks. It does have the 3rd row seating.

Worth it? I'm still on the fence. I have my 87 300d and like it, I guess I could use the 300D as a parts car for the 300TD (as it's my understanding the 300td is a more valued car) Plus I could use the 3rd row seating...

If there is any rust no. If not it is probably fair. Do you have the money and or skill to put a new head on it if needed? Owning the sedan I assume you know most of the issues with the 124. A couple things the wagon has the sedan doesn't. Do the SLS and self latching tailgate work?

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1987 300TD 309, xxx 2.8.2014 10,000 mile OCI


Be careful of the toes you step on today, as they may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow. anonymous

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter won’t mind.” Dr. Seuss

not sure. have not seen the car in person yet. It's 2 hours away from me and I'm just trying to get a feel for what I should be looking for and then what it's worth depending on condition issues.

Well, if it's able to drive 2 hours to you, that's a good sign. $1600 isn't very much money...

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1984 300D, 228k, Light Ivory, Java MB-Tex

If he is driving to meet you that far It's probably a decent runner. Any past docs or reciepts would help. That is a decent price if things are in order. Many parts will swap out of your sedan or other gasser wagons from wrecking yards.

If running well you should go from 0-60 in about 12-13 seconds

Some things to look out for:
-A/C operation
-Sunroof
-Rust (expensive or VERY time consuming)
- Rear hatch lift pumps
- Power antenna (specific to wagon)
- Leaks in rear hydo shocks (very expensive)
- look down into fuel tank neck - all scaley rust? I needed a new "used" fuel tank. or it can get re-coated
-too Many holes in exhaust/muffler

Good luck! With time, money, money, money, and love it can be a great car. Save it from being parted out!!

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1987 300TD 147,000 miles- Palomino leather interior, 1995 facelift and body cladding, E350 wheels, Rebuilt suspension and sport springs, rebuilt turbo, New Monarch injection pump and injectors....and the list goes on and on...

if running well, 0-60 in 8 seconds!

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

Never, ever, ever agree to buy something this old, at any agreed to price sight unseen. Is my best advice to you.

That would be .5 of a second quicker than my 300 ETD's literature states mine will do (8.5 sec.)

I'm not so sure about that 87 TD, unless it is geared that low?

I believe the sedan did 0-55 in 8.5 seconds. The wagon is just a bit slower.

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1987 300TD 309, xxx 2.8.2014 10,000 mile OCI


Be careful of the toes you step on today, as they may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow. anonymous

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter won’t mind.” Dr. Seuss

The 87 300D was an anomaly. One fine car!


How MB came up with the dreadfully s l o w 95 E300, 8 years later was a real feat. . . .

They just forgot the turbo and the intercooler that they put in the car you drive.

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1987 300TD 309, xxx 2.8.2014 10,000 mile OCI


Be careful of the toes you step on today, as they may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow. anonymous

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter won’t mind.” Dr. Seuss

Not sure what type of stop watch you are using and where some of you keep coming up with your trap speeds. Maybe you have a highly modified injection pump, exhaust, and turbo? Technical specs show the wagon at 11.9 sec for 100km/hr....or 62 MPH. That is one second slower than the sedan. That of course is in perfect brand new condition.

I think my 12-13 sec estimate for a well broken-in motor is pretty close

General InformationMakeMercedes-BenzModel300 TE TurbodieselProduction YearCountryDesignerProduction NumberModel CodeModel FamilyChassis and DimensionsChassis Type4/5S ESTNumber of Doors5Wheelbase2800 mm (110,2 in)Front Track1497 mm (58,9 in)Rear Track1488 mm (58,6 in)Length4765 mm (187,6 in)Width1740 mm (68,5 in)Height1490 mm (58,7 in)Ground ClearanceLength / Wheelbase Ratio1,7Weight1555 kg (3425,1 lb)Weight Distribution (front/rear)Fuel Capacity72 litre (15,8 Imp gal , 19 US gal)AerodynamicsDrag CoefficientFrontal AreaCxEngine SpecificationsEngine ManufacturerMercedes-BenzEngine LocationFrontEngine AlignmentLongitudinalEngine ConstructionCoolant TypeWaterEngine TypeSOHCNumber of Cylinders and PlacementS-6Valves per Cylinder2 (Total of 12 Pieces)Engine Displacement2996 cc (182,83 cu in)Bore87 mm (3,43 in)Stroke84 mm (3,31 in)Bore / Stroke Ratio1,04Unitary Capacity499,33 cc/cylinder (30,47 cu in/cylinder)Number of Main Bearings7Compression Ratio22 : 1Fuel System TypeBo diesel inj.Aspiration TypeTurbo D.Compressor TypeIntercooler TypeCatalytic ConverterNoMaximum Engine Power148 HP (110,4 kW)Maximum Engine Power rpm4600 d/dMaximum Engine Torque267 N.m (197 lb.ft , 27,2 kg.m)Maximum Engine Torque rpm2400 d/dEngine Torque at Max. Engine Power rpm229,1 N.m (4600 d/d)Power / Weight Ratio95,2 HP/ton (71 W/kg)Power / Engine Displacement Ratio49,4 HP/litre (36,8 kW/litre)CO2 EmissionsFuel ConsumptionPerformance0 - 80 km/h0 - 60 mph0 - 100 km/h11,9 s0 - 160 km/h80 - 120 km/h (in top gear)0 - 400 m Acceleration0 - 1000 m AccelerationTop Speed195 km/h (121,2 mph)Gearbox and TransmissionTransmission Type4ATop Gear Ratio1 : 1Final Drive Ratio2,65 : 1Drive WheelsRWD (Rear Wheel Drive)

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1987 300TD 147,000 miles- Palomino leather interior, 1995 facelift and body cladding, E350 wheels, Rebuilt suspension and sport springs, rebuilt turbo, New Monarch injection pump and injectors....and the list goes on and on...

be sure and post it's location and condition if you look it over and decide you don't want it.
be sure and go look at it before you decide either way!

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

I do too.

I don't know where some come up with wild accelleration claims similar to a 2005 E320 CDI. . . . ?

Oh I agree, I have been going back and forth with the guy for a week now. I buy a lot of cars... pain in the ass cars... I have this damn affection toward older rovers... so I'm fairly use to seeing large piles of crap for sale.

One of the things that does worry me is the fact he's selling it as the engine only. He has a running video of it up on youtube. If he's willing to drive it to me it shows the trans works.. but he's a scraper and that also tells me that everyone else has already given up on this car.

I'm only interested in this car due to it's 7 passenger seating. I'm trying to figure out the way I want to go because I would rebuild my current sedan, which runs and drives just fine but needs a lot of little things, or buy this and redo it which would most likely mean the parting out of the sedan as a donor.

It's my understanding that the 300TD is worth more as a finished car than the 300D, mainly due to its original production numbers and the scarcity of existing examples left. So I guess it would be the way to go...

If I pass on it, I'll share all the information on it so someone else here has the chance at it.