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Old 12-13-2010, 08:03 PM
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? about the 60x motors

I had this guy tell me that the 601, 602, 603 motors are junk and the 617 are the best ever. He asked me if I saw a 601, 602, 603 motor with 1 million miles? He said that he has only seen a 617 with 1 million miles. My question is, has anyone ever seen or have 1 million miles on there 60x motor? This guy was making me mad! I know that the 60x motors are not junk. So lets hear it guys, have you?

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Old 12-13-2010, 08:19 PM
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I had this guy tell me that the 601, 602, 603 motors are junk and the 617 are the best ever. He asked me if I saw a 601, 602, 603 motor with 1 million miles? He said that he has only seen a 617 with 1 million miles. My question is, has anyone ever seen or have 1 million miles on there 60x motor? This guy was making me mad! I know that the 60x motors are not junk. So lets hear it guys, have you?
There are damn few OM 61X engines with a million, and when you consider the number of them produced it is a tiny fraction of the total.

Considerably less OM 60X family engines have been produced so it is likely that the actual number rather than a percentage of a total will exist.

I personally own two driver OM603's with over 370K and a OM602 that just turn 375K the 602 has never had the head off and has the original transmission. The 603's both had their cylinder heads replaced but only because I wanted to, the original heads where both fine, I've got a couple other 603 engines all with 250K with original cylinder heads.

I think you'll more likely find high milage OM60X engines in europe as there where just more in shear numbers put on the road there, statisticly it is more likely that a number of the "anti-lemon" very good engines are to be found there.

I think there is at least one forum member with a 500K+ OM603 but I can't recall who that is off the top of my head.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:55 PM
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My 603 had well over 350k on it when I lost the car...
It was totally original except for timing chains!
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I know a dude with over 800k on his 87.
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:06 PM
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Is your "friend " a member here?
Its unlikely that any one on here would be st##id enough to make claims like that!!
Next your "friend" will be telling you that a 61X will run for ever on WVO & peanut shells!
Has he shown you this 617 with 1m miles? I have one with 800k on it & probably it would have gone to 1m but I got another.
I cant see any good reason why a 60X would not do 1m miles. Problem is that those of us that could have run one that far were too busy running our 617 till they wore out & didnt start soon enough on a 60X.
Best You tell your "friend" that he is dreaming & if he keeps it up, he will go blind !!
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Is your "friend " a member here?
Its unlikely that any one on here would be st##id enough to make claims like that!!
Next your "friend" will be telling you that a 61X will run for ever on WVO & peanut shells!
Has he shown you this 617 with 1m miles? I have one with 800k on it & probably it would have gone to 1m but I got another.
I cant see any good reason why a 60X would not do 1m miles. Problem is that those of us that could have run one that far were too busy running our 617 till they wore out & didnt start soon enough on a 60X.
Best You tell your "friend" that he is dreaming & if he keeps it up, he will go blind !!

He is not my friend, and no he didnt show me the 617. He also said the 60x motors are throw away motors. It is nobody on this forum, just a guy that I was going to buy some parts from.
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:22 PM
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Well I'd tell him that..........

Whoops, lost interest......
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I don't get the point of a million mile motor discussion. It obviously depends on how well the engine has been maintained.

I hazard a guess there is no stock engine in any make of any vehicle that has done 1 million miles (on earth) without maintenance.

Space travel is another thing.
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I don't get the point of a million mile motor discussion. It obviously depends on how well the engine has been maintained.

I hazard a guess there is no stock engine in any make of any vehicle that has done 1 million miles (on earth) without maintenance.

Space travel is another thing.
Cummins has a million mile club
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A member here had about 441k on his SDL, before he passed away. Car ran great. Head had been off twice, bottom end was stock.



Far less 60Xs were built, so chances of seeing an extreme high mile one is going to be few and far between.
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It takes time to drive a million miles in a car and the 61x engines were being driven around for over a decade before the (much fewer) 60x hit the roads, guess which one will be found with higher miles. The guy's a wanker.
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Cummins has a million mile club
... without any mechanical maintenance on the engine, that's simply amazing or pure bull****.
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Junk? Them are fightin' words.

Friends a tool bro.

Seriously though, I've seen more 617s with more miles, does that make the 60x junk? Hardly. The 60x may ONLY be *proven* to 500k... wow what a total pile of crap. People are funny.

Also, I challenge his 617 to a race. Roll or dig, I don't care. Illinois isn't far, bring money.
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It takes time to drive a million miles in a car and the 61x engines were being driven around for over a decade before the (much fewer) 60x hit the roads, guess which one will be found with higher miles. The guy's a wanker.

Hey Jeff,
I was trying to say that politely !!!
Best hand him a cheap pair of glasses & say "you will need these soon if you keep that up!!" ~ maybe you havent heard the old wife's tail that it makes you go blind.


To the OP,
You need to get a new parts guy. If he is saying things like that, he clearly knows JACK S##T about MB diesel motors !! Sounds like a work experience kid. Please let him know what I think of him.

They tell me that Lee on Fastlane here would never make such an idiotic statement!! ~ Just a hint !!
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Also, I challenge his 617 to a race. Roll or dig, I don't care. Illinois isn't far, bring money.
Hard to beat an extra 20+ horsepower and you'd get significantly better MPG while doing it! Once you go OM60X, you never go back! Unless you you need to be reminded what you're not missing!

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