W210 E300D vs. E300TD - your input - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Skid Row Joe · #16 12-17-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy5848

BTW, the E300D will cruise effortlessly at 78 MPH.

It'll actually cruise well above "78 MPH efortlessly."

These (the '98s and '99s) are high-performance turbodiesels. Unfortunately, they were not designed for optimal highway miles per gallon. Purely performance cars that also maintain a slight margin of somewhat exceptional mpg, versus many of their contemporaries.

"78 MPH" is NOTHING to the '98 and up turbodiesels. Achieving 100+ mph comes easily and very quickly to them!

The 2005 E320 CDI ungoverned, will cruise effortlessly at 140 mph round-the-clock. As demonstrated on a test track in Laredo, Texas 5 or so years ago.

kolnerspieler · #17 12-17-2010, 08:04 PM

I used to own a 96 and i used to average 28-30 mpg around town. I got 500 miles on a tank of diesel driving in the city so to say. I never used the AC because it didnt work and did not have any lights to work, just a few stop sings. I drive it with care going 25-35 mph. If you do actually city driving with traffic and lights i do not think you can get 28mpg.

engatwork · #18 12-17-2010, 08:45 PM

I have a couple of 95 E300's that can get 35 miles per gallon day in and day out. Expect to have to put a new head gasket on the duel overhead cam engine (non turbo) around 250k miles. Pretty straightforward job.

I'll keep all this info in mind when I look for my next E class

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Parrot of Doom · #19 12-18-2010, 05:43 AM

Max speed of the E300TD is about 135mph, before the limiter comes on. Confirmed by me. It doesn't take long to get there.

I wouldn't worry about the spring perches. If they go, its a relatively inexpensive repair job. I'd be more worried about a rusty body, since that's what'll cost money to fix. The electronics aren't a big concern, I have a silly issue where when hot my engine idles too fast (turning the interior fan up full seems to slow it down for some reason) but apart from that it all works ok.

I'd have the turbo over the non turbo any day, but then again I refuse to own a car that does 0-60 in more than 10 seconds.

pimpernell · #20 12-18-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

If you are getting "37 mpg" @ 70 mph on the highway, that is 2 mpg+ more than the EPA rates the car @ 50 mph on a treadmill with no headwind. Your mpg figures are off, for Highway. That car at those speeds isn't capable of returning those numbers, especially since my '99 300 ETD that is EPA-rated above your car's EPA-rating figure, will not, and never has returned the stats you claim. A "fluke" tank fill @ 28 mpg City, and 32 mpg Highway is a rare occurence - even without the use of the A/C. More like 24 mpg City average, and 32 mpg Highway, at best.

BTW, all cars burn oil to operate their engines. It's physically impossible to claim that your car "doesn't use a drop of oil," to operate.

I drive with a very light foot, steady speeds, and have a Scanguage installed at all times and I must have been lucky to get a rare car. As for the oil usage, if I don't have to add any oil between oil changes, I don't have to add a drop.

1996 MERCEDES-BENZ - E300 DIESEL

City MPG: 24 Highway MPG: 32 Combined MPG: 27 Today's cost to drive 15,000 miles: $1776

Year: 1996
Make: MERCEDES-BENZ
Model: E300 DIESEL
Vehicle Class: COMPACT CARS
Engine Size: 3.0 liters
Number of Cylinders: 6
Transmission: A4
Drive System: RWD
Fuel Type: DIESEL
Four Door Interior Volume: 95 ft3
Four Door Luggage Volume: 15 ft3
Release Date: 950926

EPA Official City MPG: 28
City MPG (2008 computation method): 24
City MPG (before adjustments): 31
EPA Official Highway MPG: 35
Highway MPG (2008 computation method): 32
Highway MPG (before adjustments): 45
EPA Official Combined MPG: 31
Combined MPG (2008 computation method): 27
Combined MPG (before adjustments): 36

http://www.mpgfacts.com/?did=250&year=1996

Skid Row Joe · #21 12-18-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpernell

I drive with a very light foot, steady speeds, and have a Scanguage installed at all times and I must have been lucky to get a rare car. As for the oil usage, if I don't have to add any oil between oil changes, I don't have to add a drop.

1996 MERCEDES-BENZ - E300 DIESEL

City MPG: 24 Highway MPG: 32 Combined MPG: 27 Today's cost to drive 15,000 miles: $1776

As I stated yesterday, these cars don't get 37 mpg. Even the turbocharged '98-'99 doesn't get 37 mpg. It does burn oil between oil changes, your car is no different than any other.

xflowgolf · #22 12-19-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

It'll actually cruise well above "78 MPH efortlessly."

These (the '98s and '99s) are high-performance turbodiesels. Unfortunately, they were not designed for optimal highway miles per gallon. Purely performance cars that also maintain a slight margin of somewhat exceptional mpg, versus many of their contemporaries.

That is exactly what appeals to me about these cars. There really is nothing else at this price point that has as much substance as these cars yet still pulls down respectable mpg's.

Skid Row Joe · #23 12-19-2010, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xflowgolf

That is exactly what appeals to me about these cars. There really is nothing else at this price point that has as much substance as these cars yet still pulls down respectable mpg's.

Take care and good shopping. They ('98/'99) come in all prices. Naturally, make your selection as to your budget.

The nut and bolts experts around here can and will help you with your diesel.

Regards,