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Temperature sender. Where and what does it look like?
1984 300td euro. I recently changed out the thermostat because I was overheating. Now the car stays a consistent 100C. Closer to 115C with air conditioning. I burped her. I'm wondering if it could be my temp sensor.
What does it look like? I attached a picture of what I believe it is. This little plug is on top of the glow plugs. Are these things serviceable? I have an infrared gun. How accurate is it to use it?
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Hmm.. I just looked at my engine. I believe I found it. Is this it?
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that looks like it could be it, it should have a lead running directly to the cluster. the new part is cheaper than 10 dollars at the dealer. i think theyre the same in all gas/diesel models.
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Do you have instruction for the non contact IR gun? it is very accurate on non shiny surface. Test it with a pan of boiling water to make sure it is correct then point it to the location of the temp sensor or cyl block. If the surface is shiny then tape a 'duct tape' on top and wait for while ( say 5 min ) and redo it again.
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The lead goes to the same line as the glow plug wires.
Starting to boil water now in a black pot and will check temp once boiling.
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Is this the temp sensor I would need? Look like my local napa has it.
https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?A=ATM0055421017_0257679580&An=599001+101984+50044+2044077
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I think the temp sensor pic you posted is the one for the glow plugs, the temp gauge sensor is elsewhere.
-J
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I'm sure that has to be it. I pulled it and my gauge rad nothing. Plugged it in and gave a reading.
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Fair enough!
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On an 84 the glow plug temp sensor is in the relay. Earlier models had it in the block.
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The temp sensor is in the head as you've found out
Here's what it should look like http://catalog.peachparts.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=&yearid=1984%40%401984&makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40X&modelid=6233%3AED|10000135%3AMBC|1518%40%40300TD&keyword=temperature&subcatid=P:240675@@Water%20Temp.%20Sensor&mode=PA Don't forget to click on buy parts above even if it is to find nice pictures like this!
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HA yes. I actually did look for it and couldn't find it.
Ok riddle me this smarty pants... What is the difference between what the manual calls "Temperature switch" and the Temperature sender/sensor? Both look quite similar... Here's a pic of the temperature switch... My car doesn't have this on the thermostat. Wondering if this is the part I need. Maybe I've had it all along!
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No sure aobut your car sensor's location.
Temperature switch means it is either Normally Open or Normally Closed. It open or close at temperature. It is like digital devices with 2 states only.
Aux fan, clutch fan are switches. Temperature sensor is analogue. It is continuous and give you different resistance readings at various temp. The temp gauge sensor is one. I normally test the gauge this way. Remove wiring then the dash would read nothing. Short the wiring to ground then the dash temp would go thru the roof. Good luck.
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Thank you!
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