240D noise - YouTube

turn up your volume and excuse the actual video. I was going for the audio.

I had to let the car roll backwards down the hill in front of my house because it had no power to get up the hill in first gear.

I'm fed up with this car, with no one listening to me, and other crap. If I had a stick of dynamite I'd try and sell it so I could buy some C4 and just blow this car up.

Can't tell much from the audio. What is the symptom apart from the sound?

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Lack of power for one. At idle there is a weird sound, like sand paper on sand paper but when I depress the clutch it goes away but not completely.

You have been around the forum a long time to have not given us more information than that...

Did this just start at that hill ?

Have you checked the valve timing ?

Any past history of algae growth ? How are the filters looking ?

How much fuel is in the tank ?.....Is there any chance you are starved for fuel as the result of the fuel strainer in the tank being clogged ... perhaps just at the bottom where pointing the car uphill would induce the starvation ?

The sound might be from the throwout bearing... or the clutch plate...
how long , if you know, has that same clutch been in the car ?
Even if not long , any chance that some period of using it with the clutch rod misadjusted resulted in slipping and thus fast wear ? Or heat checking of the pressure plate ? Ever smelled anything you thought was coming from the clutch area ?

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=156207&highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

Sorry I was a bit distracted

I set the valve timing 2 months ago, The pre filter is pretty clear, I think I got most of the crap out of the tank. It started yesterday, its incredibly sluggish on flat land.

I suspect the clutch is original or old. I did not replace the clutch, pressure plate, or throw out bearing when I swapped transmissions. I do not drive the car, my step dad does. He's driven manual for a long time so he would tell me if he smelled burning clutch.

My mechanic, Pierre suspects the throw out bearing. I listened to the bottom end with the engine idling and I did not hear any loud knocks from down there.

Also, it idles like crap, no fuel leaks or air bubbles.

There is a tool..... a go , no go tool.... which is used to check the thickness of the clutch.... if you get one that is an easy quick first check on the friction pad thickness ....
It is sorta standard procedure.... for others watching... to replace the clutch and the throwout bearing when the transmission is taken out... to avoid having to take it out unnecessarily fast just when it wears out....
If you were able to take the rear wheels off the ground...
and place a mechanics stethiscope on the metal rod which pushes on the throwout bearing .... with the engine running.... it might be of use diagnostically.... a lot of trouble if you are not set up for it....

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=156207&highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

I kind of wish I had done the clutch stuff but money is tight. If I have to do the clutch, which I feel that I am probably going to have to do, I can pull the transmission myself and everything.

I would not have had to take the transmission out if I had noticed the damn shift levers had a 5mm allen head bolt that I could have tightened... FML

Wow, what a hard lesson to learn on that shift lever bolt....

Normally if a trans is pulled one would replace the pilot bearing, the throwout bearing , the clutch plate , and see if the pressure plate has any dark spots or checking ( little crack lines )... and either have it re surfaced or replace it depending on the amount of warpage and its thickness..... like rotors it has a minimum thickness for safety...

Looking on the bright/warm side.... you are in Florida...not the North East....

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=156207&highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

yeah, I should have.... But as usual I get to learn the hard and expensive way.

If you put the transmission in fourth gear and let out the clutch. Does the engine stall?

Do you have enough fuel pressure that fuel is coming out the return from the injection pump. If not fix that. Also if fuel is coming out clamp the return line off and see if the power is greater.

I'll double check the fuel line stuff and do the other thing you mentioned tomorrow.

When you get pissed off, frustrated or emotional towards anything you are working on. Try to walk away for awhile and go at it later.

It is too hard to think clearly while in an emotional state. It is amazing how quickly a problem can be isolated sometimes with a clearer head.

I think we all suffer from this type of thing from time to time. I learnt this lesson so long ago I almost forgot about it. As they say youth is wasted on the young.

Thanks. I'm just frustrated beyond belief. If my step dad had listened to me ad did te timing belt on the Aveo when I said, and I would have paid. I would not have wasted so much money. I'm just done helping.

I help a lot of my friends and strangers and lately I've gotten nothing from it. I'm tired of helping and not being appreciated.

It happens man, I couldnt tell you how many times I've thought "told ya so" to friends and family. Good luck with the work, sounds like a throwing bearing to my untrained and quickly listening ear.

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Pulled the valve cover to check chain tension and forgot that I needed to take it out of gear so I'll have to do that tonight when I get home. But the valve cover is warped so that explains the massive oil leak. Pierre has another for me.

He called me this morning and he has an idea that the chain tensioner has failed. Which is what is causing that sound that I am hearing. So I'll know more once I properly check the chain tension later today. I have to go to work at Disney and thankfully I got my hands and arms back to normal.

Valve cover is off the engine and the cam is covered with mylay and clamped into place. I always have an issue putting the valve cover back on so I need to pull the hard lines to get it into place without wrestling with the stupid gasket.

I did not do the "put into 4th gear and see what happens" trick or check the fuel return.... yet. Investigating the chain tensioner first since that seems to be the most important of all bullet points to hit.