I keep pretty good records for each fill up. Tracking MPG, cost per gallon, and all that good stuff. I starting keeping track for my 240 in Jan 2008. I though y'all would like to see what the price of diesel has been doing. And my answer to, "When is the price of diesel coming down?", is Never. It may do down for a little bit bit it will never really go down.

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I swear there is some big conspiracy to made diesel look "bad" and push people into those electric tin cans that have no resale value.

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

I have a hard time with people throwing out perfectly good things in the name of efficiency and better products. How many cars have been trashed in the time that my 34 year old car has been kept on the road. I still believe in getting the most out of the things we have. People seem to forget that it take energy and resources to make these new "more efficient" toys.

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Exactly. My Benz is obviously paid off. I dont like to say, but I paid $3k for it. I could spend $10k and have a new paint job, rebuilt engine and transmission, new suspension and fix every other little issue. I would then pretty much have a "new" car that is still better than what someone will buy today for $22k+. Dont get it. Imagine if we treated houses like most treat cars?

Although I do wish I had an SDL.

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

No 'conspiracy' just supply and demand.

Capacity to produce diesel is low, but demand is increasing. Meanwhile actual demand for gasoline is decreasing. Gas prices may go down, diesel stays the same or goes up. Because diesel used to cost less than gasoline, the perception is that diesel is unnaturally (or artificially) high.

Production capacity problems are also exacerbated by inability to distill high-sulfur crude into low-sulfur diesel. It can be done, but the refineries to do so are few and far between, so prices on low sulfur diesel go up and stay high.

This is a problem for the "drill here, drill now" crowd to reduce US fuel prices. An overall increase in domestic supply COULD reduce prices, but it probably won't have great effect since it'll be an incremental drop in the bucket on the global market and refiners will sell where they make money at the rates that give them the most profit. You won't see any "Made in USA" discounts on diesel or gasoline.

Prices aren't driven by where the crude comes from, but where the demand for the refined product is.

Let's not forget the toxic waste of the spent batteries...

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08 R320 CDI current

Past
95 E420
87 300D Turbo 5spd
90 300TE
83 300SD
85 300TD
92 400E
85 190D

TRUE . . . and millions of gallons of gas and diesel are being exported each month.

Sorry but SUCKERS!!!!

A dirty Texas refinery secrets

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1999 Mercedes E300TD daily driver sold at 238K miles 106K miles were mine, rust worm got it :-(
2006 Mercedes CDI new daily driver! 56,000 miles May 2016 now 85,625 Apr 2018 and Apr 2019 101,000 miles Apr 2020 109,875. March 2024 135,250, Dec 2024 145,000 miles

Fuel oil was one of the US's Largest exports in 2011. Gas was another. It's all about the global economy. Why sell it hear for less then you can sell it someplace else for more cash. You got to love wall st and profit hungry investors.

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Mad_Matt's Current Stable:
Oil Burners:
09 Jetta TDI The highway queen @ 105k
83 300D. Sold
Gassers:
16 A4 sport line
10 Passat
83 Recaro Trans AM WS6 Bone Stock Survivor
11 Harley Ultra

BUT don't refineries (oil & gas Companies) receive trillions of dollars of Tax Payer subsidies??????? from poor people like "U" and "me"???????????? to reduce the cost of refined fuel to Islamic Countries?

Thanks Republicans

No tax for billionaires?!?!




Perhaps this belongs in a political section?

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1999 Mercedes E300TD daily driver sold at 238K miles 106K miles were mine, rust worm got it :-(
2006 Mercedes CDI new daily driver! 56,000 miles May 2016 now 85,625 Apr 2018 and Apr 2019 101,000 miles Apr 2020 109,875. March 2024 135,250, Dec 2024 145,000 miles

I have seen it mentioned here before that 40% of the Diesel refined in the USA is exported.

I read in the paper that with more fuel efficient cars, and the bad economy, people are driving less which causes an over supply of fuel.

There are a number of countries that are rapidly growing and their economies are increasing, which allows more and more people in those countries to buy automobile`s. It is all about supply and demand and any good business person will sell to the highest bidder.

usually when the demand drops for a product, so does the price, but doesn`t work that way for petrolium products.

As I remember the article, we import more crude oil than we export the finished product.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

I've just recently heard about this too. It's an interesting turn around for the US. We buy oil from third world countries then refine it and sell it to other world markets.

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Doesn`t this just get you tight jawed? then there is all the talk of drilling more in our country to get us off foreign oil. sounds good, but would it all just get exported for the sake of a higher market some where else?

I did read that we have a reserve of oil that is larger than the Arab countries up in "I think" Wyoming, and the Dekotas". but might be the sand oil or shale oil.
I remember going across HWY 80 through Wyoming, Utah and Nevada about 6 -7 yrs back. don`t remember which state, but there were piles of pipe and long train loads of pipe, and a massive underground burial of a pipe line running along the Hwy, then turning south to carry oil someplace. so maybe this supply of under ground oil and this pipe line have something in common.

yet the news medias don`t mention much about this supply as they do the amount of oil we import and how much they and the environmentilists are against drilling any where in the US for more oil.

Everything we use on a daily bassis, revolves in someway around OIL. even the much worshiped electric cars will take oil products in it`s production and transportation to the end consumer.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

This is so true, plastics and soap are just two things that are used everyday that have petroleum in them.

I heard that there is some viability to making diesel from plastic. Using old plastic waste. Seems that we can make diesel fuel from just about anything. The Mr Fusion in the Delorean on Back to the Future isn't so far fetched I guess. We can make diesel from plastic, algae, and fungus.

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Hemp oil is a direct replacement for petroleum used in plastic, fuel, etc. But it illegal to farm... I wonder why

Oh and you cant get high from it, that's the other stuff.

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08 R320 CDI current

Past
95 E420
87 300D Turbo 5spd
90 300TE
83 300SD
85 300TD
92 400E
85 190D

It's okay to get drunk at the local bar, but if you take a hit from a J three weeks ago you can get fired from your job. But this is a whole different issue. It sure is okay to import hemp rope and clothing. I guess part of the issue is that Hemp looks just like Weed. But it wouldn't be hard to breed in variegated leaves or something to easily distinguish between the two.

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