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Don't hold your breath
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Today I disassembled the original flush headlights and examined how they are built. I also surveyed my extra lenses and trim and found I have four NOS lenses (or very close) and two nearly perfect trim rings.
I figured out how the reflectors are held in (mystery clips) and my plan is to get them re-plated and upgrade the bulbs, either halogen (will heat be a problem?) or LED (is a plug in LED available?) Michael is nearly done with the body work now and nearly ready to start painting. I am thinking very hard now too about the instruments in the dash. I'll prolly have him build a consol of some sort for the cup holders, radio and a couple gauges and various warning lights, etc.
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A better option might be to mount a Bi-Xenon projector behind the original lenses.
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I searched them and found they are pretty bulky. I'm not sure there is room behind the headlight for them without hitting the front tire.
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The heat would not effect a true silver plating. As for vaccum metalising the reflectance of the surface stops heat buildup to signifigant temperatures. Most of it especially the radiant component is reflected and goes right out through the lens. That's for either type of finish.
Bright aluminum used in vacuum metalising will oxidise in normal atmospheric conditions so it has a protective coat sprayed on it for your type of application. Real silver will tarnish with time. Real silver is not cheap usually in comparison. Still you might luck in but you must request really bright silver. Chrome actually absorbs light but is really durable. So it is not practical. |
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Bright silver was the technical standard and only original for a very long time. I was going to set up a bright silver bath as well because some are charging outrageous prices for this service. Since the brightest silver baths are proprietary in nature. Read high cost if anyone decides to do this I can give them the information on how to brighten silver baths cheaper if they want it. Do you ever wonder why silver was the only thing used basically for mirrors for so long? Nickel is not in the same class as to reflectability. It is a poor cousin at best. Some member should as the bath is small and pretty easy to manage compared to much of electroplating. Plus the molecular thinness of application does not consume much silver. I will probably not get time to do it. During a much earlier thread some member used a guy that normally silver plates silverware and such. The price was reasonable. The halogen converter sockets unless they have changed. Require a modification of the reflectors back socket hole size. They also place the filament a little further out in the reflector usually. Be very careful of how you increase the hole size. You do not want ripples or distortions introduced to the reflectors. This to me changes the width of the projected beam a little but they are quite acceptable and common. Probably about the only sane way to go today. Also there might be period standard sealed bulb conversion units out there as 1940 was pretty much the start of sealed beams. Usually most brands probably had after market retrofits. I would talk to some Studebaker owners of your vintage to see. That way you might just be able to put a nice sealed halogen beam unit behind the lens. There was nothing decent for the 39 buick as the reflector was greater in diameter than any available sealed beam conversion. Still there was or Is one out there but it is ugly in my opinion. By thirty nine all headlight reflectors may have had a standard size. This is just a suspicion. Last edited by barry12345; 02-19-2014 at 06:45 AM. |
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give this a look
I have used these supplies on glass. It is not that complicated. Getting a good mirror finish is difficult, but maybe you dont need it perfect. I was thinking of trying to re-silver my lights on the SL. They seem uneven in brightness. Who knows maybe this will help. http://angelgilding.com/
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From the illustrations of the halogen conversion bulbs it appears the base mounting would be relatively easy.
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Think my fabricator could section the other reflectors I have and make them match the Studebaker's without ruining them?
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I have turned reflectors in a lathe before, just make sure they're using sharp tools (manually ground pointy cut your finger tool steel) or a new endmill if they go the rotary table route.
If you can clamp it flat down a boring head on a mill and a sharp boring bar are easy and precise. Or just use a sharp step drill.
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I was siting here thinking the yellow you see may be overall tarnish from sitting. Or since the coating is so thin there may have been some interaction between the base metal and the finish metal over the years. I guess I have seen the yellow overall tint for want of a better description of it but never thought much about it.
As for cutting the reflectors down overall the last poster has experience where I do not. His methods seem very sane with much less chance of messing up the base metal in the reflectors. I have a low time 13 inch series 2000 utilathe and would use his method if the need was ever there. It just makes sense. Basically he was just scoring through slowly with no major metal upset. I would do some research in the classic car area on reflectors. My understanding is that a lot of platers will plate reflectors but not use bright silver. You can also look up the reflectivity component or index probably of each metal. Chrome is considered an absolute no no but to our eyes looks like it would be a good reflector. That is really too bad as in general it is very durable. Prep time can be high with a lot of older reflectors. Well back to the daily grind. Very late starting today as for whatever reason our snowplow guy came very late after a signifigant snowfall last night. Going to be another storm overnight as well it seems. Sounds like the vehicle is moving right along and that is just great. |
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