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Old 12-06-2012, 04:04 PM
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DNOSD261 or DNOSD265's for the OM.617.xxx

Quieter than DNOSD240/a
Hmmmm...what are the precise differences?????

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Old 12-06-2012, 04:05 PM
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Due to the distances you travel do you think that Winshield Washer fluid Injection would be of more benefit mileage wise?
I am not sure. When I was working for FSR Motorsports in Montclair, California, I installed a water injection system on a Ford F350 Powerstroke for Diesel Power Magazine, but I had already left by the time it hit the dyno...
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:12 PM
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Differences--

Side-cut pintle-nozzles used in 'G' Wagen OM.617 (DNOSD261) and later Pre-Chamber OM.60x series (DNOSD265)

--At least they are 'correct' for the engine in the case of the 261 and correct for the type of combustion-chamber in the case of the 265.

I believe these are 'evolutions' of the same series,--having the same requirements of a M.B. Pre-Chamber from which the very early DNOSD1510 and its successor the DNOSD220, and the later DNOSD240 and /a versions have evolved.

All have been used in the pre-chamber M.B. engines over the years....
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:21 AM
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When a new timing chain was installed on my 300D my mechanic commented on how loud the injectors (or injektors as you'd say ) were on my car, and that it was a good thing. They're still the originals, which probably means I need to look into them some time in the future
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:22 AM
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Differences--

Side-cut pintle-nozzles used in 'G' Wagen OM.617 (DNOSD261) and later Pre-Chamber OM.60x series (DNOSD265)

--At least they are 'correct' for the engine in the case of the 261 and correct for the type of combustion-chamber in the case of the 265.

I believe these are 'evolutions' of the same series,--having the same requirements of a M.B. Pre-Chamber from which the very early DNOSD1510 and its successor the DNOSD220, and the later DNOSD240 and /a versions have evolved.

All have been used in the pre-chamber M.B. engines over the years....
The Monark Nozzles are also cut as in the Picture.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:49 AM
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Sop, what do the numbers '240,' 265,' etc., mean????
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:19 PM
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I can get brand new (not reman) Bosch injektors (002 017 20 21) from my local MBZ dealer for $84.84/each my cost. And nozzles are $65.00/each????

Hmmmmm......
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:38 PM
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So, Greazzer....

What effect do the different nozzles have???? Such as 240 vs. 265, Monark vs. Bosio...?????
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I can't answer for So, Greazzer but I doubt if there is an obvious difference between New Stock 240 Nozzle and New Monarks; at least no seat of the pants type difference. If the Stock 240 Nozzles were made in Germany or France.

But, the New Made in India 240 nozzles have been know not the test well or be marginal to begin with.

I would expect any of the Nozzles that use the Facet to handle the Idle Fuel would be liss likely to plug up with Carbon and certainly easier to clean then the 240s.
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:13 AM
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Greazzer,

Your thoughts???
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:27 PM
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Source for Bosio nozzles????
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:12 PM
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:33 AM
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YAY!!!!!

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