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Old 01-12-2013, 03:07 PM
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If anyone here owns a 95 E300D could you please take some pictures of the throttle cable linkage that mounts to the head for me. (I know I know its a diesel, no throttle etc etc)

I need reference shots for my 606 swap and I want to piece together the parts I need so I can order the bare minimum from the dealership.

Pics from above, close up, shots if you can of where it meets the injection pump.. etc. I've attached what EPC shows so I just need to see it in place as the center of attention. I've been pouring over tons of videos and photos of 606's just hoping for some reference shots of this piece but no one really pays much attention to it.

I'd rather spend the $100-150 on this linkage than cobble together a mess of linkages from the junk yard since this is one of the main pieces to get the 606 to work in the earlier w124.

much appreciated.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:47 PM
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If anyone here owns a 95 E300D could you please take some pictures of the throttle cable linkage that mounts to the head for me. (I know I know its a diesel, no throttle etc etc)

I need reference shots for my 606 swap and I want to piece together the parts I need so I can order the bare minimum from the dealership.

Pics from above, close up, shots if you can of where it meets the injection pump.. etc. I've attached what EPC shows so I just need to see it in place as the center of attention. I've been pouring over tons of videos and photos of 606's just hoping for some reference shots of this piece but no one really pays much attention to it.

I'd rather spend the $100-150 on this linkage than cobble together a mess of linkages from the junk yard since this is one of the main pieces to get the 606 to work in the earlier w124.

much appreciated.
Darn it, just sat down. I just put everything back together after replacing all the fuel lines to the IP. Sorry, it's been a long day of wrenching... and I'm not pulling it all apart again.

What do you want a picture of specifically? I'll be back in there later this week. Are you looking for screw points? Where the linkage sits in the manifold?
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:15 PM
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Yes, bolt points, where the linkage sits, and high res shots of the linkage set up. Once I get my pump in I will be able to determine what else I need.

The plate by number 74 is not able to be selected in EPC so I wonder if its on the IP or not available. #74 is a bolt apparently.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:21 PM
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Here's a picture I took when I was deleting the throttle flap. I don't have any detailed pictures at the moment.

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Old 01-12-2013, 09:45 PM
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Ran out and took these for you. Note this car is for off road use and does not have the flap on the intake in operation thus the linkage is missing.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:49 PM
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I don't even run a fan shroud. Note too the air filter I'm running. All that stuff got taken out when the wife rear ended a Bronco.

This car just turned over 300k miles.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:38 PM
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Here's a picture I took when I was deleting the throttle flap. I don't have any detailed pictures at the moment.

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Hi folks,

I came across this thread whilst in the final throws of reassembling my OM606.910 after rebuild.

As with these 'hobbies' they always take a lot longer than you first anticipate by which time a few more grey cells have evaporated hence my current dilemma - 'now where did that bit go'

Jeremy's pic above is a great help for the reassembly of the throttle linkage where I couldn't see an exact bolting point.

The remaining questions I have are detailed in the following pics, firstly what bolts into the hole circled in green?



I'll start a second post with a few more assemble pics, thanks
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:43 PM
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Also could someone confirm the V shaped vacuum connectors circled in green is universal, i.e can connect either way around to the unit attached to the manifold.

Please also confirm butterfly resonance valve pipe is correct too, much appreciated.

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Old 11-17-2013, 07:43 PM
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The vacuum source hoses can be connected either way. The challenge with the connection to the resonance flaps is that the electrical plugs can go on either way so it's possible to get them backwards. I need to do some research -- maybe someone else will post the secret in the meantime.

EDIT -- here's the answer:

The dual "switchover valve" that bolts to the underside of the intake manifold has two identical valves. Each can operate either the flap in the crossover pipe or the flap in the intake manifold. It's possible to get them backwards as the electrical plugs are the same. The wire colors, however, are unique, allowing you to tell which is which.

The valve that controls the flap in the crossover pipe has a yellow wire. The valve that controls the flap in the intake manifold has a gray wire (shown in your picture along with the green circle around the Y-connection). Both valves have a brown (ground) wire. It doesn't matter which of the two valves controls which flap as long as the wire colors go to the valve for the matching flap.

The recently-posted Russian web site with the Mitchell electrical diagrams shows the flaps in the engine wiring file "3.0L Diesel, Engine Performance Circuits," which is "5378.pdf" if you save the file to your hard drive. I need to check both of my cars to make sure they're wired right and maybe put color-coded tags on the cables and hoses so I don't get them confused in the future.

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p[QUOTE=spock505;3240660]Also could someone confirm the V shaped vacuum connectors circled in green is universal, i.e can connect either way around to the unit attached to the manifold.

Please also confirm butterfly resonance valve pipe is correct too, much appreciated.

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Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:42 PM
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Thank you so much Jeremy for your help

The missing bolt answer made me smile as I took ages pondering whether or not to post up a question not wanting to look daft.

This is great, thank again for taking the trouble to source the info.

The valve that controls the flap in the crossover pipe has a yellow wire. The valve that controls the flap in the intake manifold has a gray wire (shown in your picture along with the green circle around the Y-connection).

Both valves have a brown (ground) wire. It doesn't matter which of the two valves controls which flap as long as the wire colors go to the valve for the matching flap.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:31 PM
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Hole

My '95 and '96 E300s both have that tapped hole and it is not used at all (so you're not missing anything).

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Hi folks,

I came across this thread whilst in the final throws of reassembling my OM606.910 after rebuild.

As with these 'hobbies' they always take a lot longer than you first anticipate by which time a few more grey cells have evaporated hence my current dilemma - 'now where did that bit go'

Jeremy's pic above is a great help for the reassembly of the throttle linkage where I couldn't see an exact bolting point.

The remaining questions I have are detailed in the following pics, firstly what bolts into the hole circled in green?

[image]

I'll start a second post with a few more assemble pics, thanks
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Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."
-- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:14 PM
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Here's a picture I took when I was deleting the throttle flap. I don't have any detailed pictures at the moment.

Jeremy


So the spring with the x is not needed, sweet less stuff to buy.

I'm curious about the linkage that connects to the injection pump. I have a handful of links from. 617 won't know if I have correct length links until I have the throttle assembly ordered and mounted. I'll have to cut the web out between the intake runners.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:22 PM
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The case of the missing links

I had often whined about the heavy accelerator pedal feel; while deleting the flap, I ran into [on line] a gentleman who suggested removing the spring. The result is a much lighter feel but the mechanism tends to hang up and not return to idle due to dirt/friction in the linkage. I replaced with all-metal links the existing plastic-ended links that connect the linkage down and back to the IP and the cruise control actuator. The all-metal links, properly lubricated (I used anti-seize) eliminated the friction problem.

Jeremy


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Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."
-- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:24 AM
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You wold t happen to still have the plastic links would you?
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:54 AM
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