That's actually my other car. Only a little more bhp (240 in the 328 vs. 200 in the GLK) but again, the diesel has way more torque and gets better gas mileage (the 328 claims 30's, but I've only seen high 20's). Obviously I'm not driving the GLK for sport like I am the 328, but It's pretty damn good for a grocery-getter and for hauling our pups.

Thanks! I still don't understand the rest of the bull**** in this thread of "gas is always better, cars need at least 400bhp". Maybe just a little jealous?

Actually leasing it, since we got a helluva deal (lease based on 8K off MSRP, got it fully loaded for 1K down and $530/mo) and we pretty much always need to be in a new car to show our customers we're successful.

This comment leads me to wonder if you have as much experience with the modern diesels as you claim.

Your first sentence was true in the timeframe around 1998-2000 but its no longer the case at all. I started driving MB diesels around 1982, diesels of that era provided a significant boost in economy over gas engine cars of the time. As computer controls evolved on gas engines the gap between gas and diesel cars narrowed to the point where the diesel really didn't offer much of an advantage. This was mainly because diesels were using the old pre-chamber designs and inline mechanical pumps that were state-of-the-art for your beloved OM617 in the mid 1950's. In response to these facts I shifted most of my fleet to gas power in the mid 2000's.

But as time marched on diesels began to catch-up with the computer controlled fuel injection, common rail and direct injection technology. The OM648 series engines significantly narrowed the gap between diesel and gas technology and shifted the balance of power back toward the diesel again. For the first time ever the diesel E-class was actually FASTER than the V6 gas version of the same car - and as a bonus it got 30% better mileage.

The OM651 in the original posters car will easily get 30-35% better mileage than the gas alternative while delivering 100 lb/ft more torque. It is a masterpiece of refinement, efficiency, torque and specific output.

I can't really comment on your 'boring' comment regarding the latest generation of common rail engines but I've experienced lots of miles in OM61X engines and I'm going to have to say I'm not bored at all with the newer technology.

What exactly "bores" you about 4 times the power, 3 times the torque, 50% better mileage and refinement levels that are two orders of magnitude over the OM617?

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98 Dodge-Cummins pickup (137K)
13 GLK250 (157k)
06 E320CDI (341K)
16 C300 (89K)
82 300GD Gelaendewagen (54K)

I don't get it either. Maybe he went off his meds or something. In response, may I direct you to the ignore feature of the forum; it's a wonderful invention...

IMHO gas makes the best hotrod and diesel the best daily driver. For an everyday car I'd rather have 400ft-lbs and 200HP rather than 250ft-lbs and 300HP. That said I have balked at newer diesels because of the cost of DEF (it has come down) and the sacrifice of the spare tire to the DEF tank.

Enjoy your new ride, it looks like a really nice vehicle.

sacrificed my spare tire to a giant Harmon Kardon amp and sub (premium 1 + multimedia).

I agree!!!!!

I also agree.

They are just not for me...

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Did you just pass my 740 at 200 kmh in a 300SD?????

1978 300SD 'Phil' - 1,315,853 Miles And Counting - 1, 317,885 as of 12/27/2012 - 1,333,000 as of 05/10/2013, 1,337,850 as of July 15, 2013, 1,339,000 as of August 13, 2013



100,000 miles since June 2005 Overhaul - Sold January 25th, 2014 After 1,344,246 Miles & 20 Years of Ownership

Not jealous, just after driving a 400+ BHP car (with over 500 lbs/ft TQ @ 7 psi boost) on a daily basis (aside from the days I drive the old W116) I just do not like anything less....

In all actuality, my wife is more of a power monger than I am. I think that's why she like the Supercharged Q7 so much.

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Did you just pass my 740 at 200 kmh in a 300SD?????

1978 300SD 'Phil' - 1,315,853 Miles And Counting - 1, 317,885 as of 12/27/2012 - 1,333,000 as of 05/10/2013, 1,337,850 as of July 15, 2013, 1,339,000 as of August 13, 2013



100,000 miles since June 2005 Overhaul - Sold January 25th, 2014 After 1,344,246 Miles & 20 Years of Ownership

1. I don't hate them at all, just expressing my personal opinion on them
2. I keep this old Benz, primarily as an extra car, and it serves to remind me of the hard times when we didn't have really much of anything and keeps me mindful of the fact that I never want to go back and relive those times.

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Did you just pass my 740 at 200 kmh in a 300SD?????

1978 300SD 'Phil' - 1,315,853 Miles And Counting - 1, 317,885 as of 12/27/2012 - 1,333,000 as of 05/10/2013, 1,337,850 as of July 15, 2013, 1,339,000 as of August 13, 2013



100,000 miles since June 2005 Overhaul - Sold January 25th, 2014 After 1,344,246 Miles & 20 Years of Ownership

If you read my posts, I think you will find your analysis without factual basis. I spend most of my time in the forum helping others and rarely do I express my opinion, and when I do, because I do not subscribe to the point of view of the masses, it makes me somewhat of an outcast.

Good purchase and it sounds like the diesel will do exactly what the OP wants it to do...

Peace....

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Did you just pass my 740 at 200 kmh in a 300SD?????

1978 300SD 'Phil' - 1,315,853 Miles And Counting - 1, 317,885 as of 12/27/2012 - 1,333,000 as of 05/10/2013, 1,337,850 as of July 15, 2013, 1,339,000 as of August 13, 2013



100,000 miles since June 2005 Overhaul - Sold January 25th, 2014 After 1,344,246 Miles & 20 Years of Ownership

Just remember, I love all you guys, I'm just an oddball....

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Did you just pass my 740 at 200 kmh in a 300SD?????

1978 300SD 'Phil' - 1,315,853 Miles And Counting - 1, 317,885 as of 12/27/2012 - 1,333,000 as of 05/10/2013, 1,337,850 as of July 15, 2013, 1,339,000 as of August 13, 2013



100,000 miles since June 2005 Overhaul - Sold January 25th, 2014 After 1,344,246 Miles & 20 Years of Ownership