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AC Charging Questions
On the 95 E300D I'm selling, the AC doesn't work. However, I have confirmed that the compressor engages when the low-pressured cut-off switch is jumpered. So that's a good sign.
I tried to add some refrigerant to see if I could get the compressor to engage. But, after almost a full 12 oz. can, it wouldn't. I saw a static low side pressure of about 70....but I gather that's a meaningless number. Should I try to add another can? Or is that risky? I know that the proper way to see what's going on is to evacuate and recharge the system. However, I'm not willing to spend money on getting the AC diagnosed....I will leave that to the new owner. Thanks.
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14 E250 Bluetec "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 153k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 171k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver, 142k mi, wastegate conversion 19 Honda CR-V EX 61k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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The 70 psi static reading isn't meaningless.... it tells me the ambient temp when you took the reading was somewhere around 70F.
The safety cut-out switch doesn't activate until the system pressure gets very low, like around 20 psi. Since you can jumper it and get it to engage it would appear at least your 1st issue is in the compressor control circuit or a bad safety switch. Another can of R134 won't help - 70 PSI is plenty high enough to energize the safety cut-out circuit.
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Maybe the Klima relay is preventing it from engaging somehow? Can you get a gauge on the high side and see what it is doing?
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It could be a bad low pressure switch. Unfortunately you have to evacuate the system to replace it. On a car with over 300K miles, I'd be tempted to jump the low pressure switch, with full disclosure to the buyer of course, and enjoy the summer. I've never heard of a high pressure failure in these cars though you might have tilted the table with the extra 12oz Cooling capability will be notably diminished before the low pressure trigger so you'd know to do something about it if it fails in the summer.
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Try another Klima relay.
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That was my thought originally....kinda pricey though. I wish I had a known good one I could try. That's why I love having the 91 and the 92....I can diagnose by swapping parts.
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If the compressor disengages, no belt issues. If the compressor stays engaged, like if the low pressure switch is jumped, and the compressor locks up, well belt damage can occur.
That is why I like the old V belts. You can cut the compressor belt and not worry about the water pump, alternator, etc.
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Try another over voltage protection relay (this is what I meant to say in reference to the Klima relay). They should be interchangeable between the 95 and 93.
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Weirdest thing....woke up, armed with gauge and charging gun, read zero static pressure, charged the system, and it blows ICE COLD. Must be losing my mind.
So, we'll see how it goes. Low pressure cut-off appears to be fine though.
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Ha it healed when it was afraid of going under the knife. Seems to me that sometimes the systems on cars need 24 hours to settle for the refrigerant to circulate and equalize. Odd
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