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Old 10-23-2013, 01:17 PM
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No doubt that is a hot price. The going rate for one of those in that represented condition is about 7-9k.

I would hold off on the trans computer until you know for a fact that it is bad. How did you determine the transmission actually downshifted, or did you just observe an rpm spike at the moment of failure?

I still maintain that the transmission controller and the engine controller talk to each other and will not allow a downshift that would kill the engine. Failing that I have to think that if somehow it did get in that situation it would have tried to save the engine by cutting the fuel supply by releasing the IP rack to minimum.

I still think you have a runaway condition caused by the engine consuming its own lube oil based on earlier statements.

Not trying to be difficult but just making sure you really get to the root cause of the problem without just throwing parts at it.

The TCM will have to be recoded to match the car, with Star DAS, it's not just a plug and play operation. I suspect this will be several hundred dollars for the part and north of a hundred to pay shop labor to do the recode.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:51 PM
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the trans computer may not be at fault, the mechanical portion of the trans may have jammed, for instance, a bearing or something falling into the planetaries causing a downshift... no?
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:25 PM
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the trans computer may not be at fault, the mechanical portion of the trans may have jammed, for instance, a bearing or something falling into the planetaries causing a downshift... no?
I hope someone can chime in on this, Transmisisons are not my strong suit.
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The trans store codes as well as adaptation values that show how it has been adjusting itself internally. I'd check them. Star Diag would be best along with someone who knows how to interpret the data. SDS might pull up an engine code or two also or pending codes.

Seems to me like you need to pull the value cover and/or head and find out what happened? Timing chain tensioner, vacuum pump blew, cam broke, threw rod, trans issues, etc, etc. Could be major, or not. List is endless and to me, without pulling it apart and knowing what you have to work with, you can't know how to proceed.
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:30 PM
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The trans store codes as well as adaptation values that show how it has been adjusting itself internally. I'd check them. Star Diag would be best along with someone who knows how to interpret the data. SDS might pull up an engine code or two also or pending codes.

Seems to me like you need to pull the value cover and/or head and find out what happened? Timing chain tensioner, vacuum pump blew, cam broke, threw rod, trans issues, etc, etc. Could be major, or not. List is endless and to me, without pulling it apart and knowing what you have to work with, you can't know how to proceed.
Both trans and engine codes were pulled there were no pending or other faults found. this is at a shop. I've had them read this car a few times since having it. I trust what they say. the plan is to move the car to storage after a trip I have coming up while I still have the apperatus to move it. (saves on towing) I've gotten a pump for my 300TD. a thread will come soon on the joys and adventure of getting this thing up and running again.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:49 PM
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Saw this one.... Too high of miles for the price I think. I'd prefer an engine either with Very low miles or no miles. and I'm leaning towards no miles. there is a rebuilder near me who has a few ready to do. comes down to money and my lackthereof
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Update?

Inquiring minds of fellow OM606 owners dying to know the rest of the story...
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