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How much ATF loss would it take to damage at 722.6 tranny?
With my measuring tool and plenty of Redline D4 in hand, I hit the open road to see how low the ATF level was on the 98 E300D I just bought. After a good half hour run, I checked the level and it was in the middle of the range....the 25C range, that it is! Yikes!! But, the shift quality was perfect. So I've begun adding very gradually....about 16 oz. so far....but's still a bit low. Needless to say, I have absolutely how long it's been leaking. But it will be fixed next week.
How low would ATF have to be to damage the 722.6 tranny?
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I would say a lot of fluid loss more like low 3 or 4 qts would cause damage - the 722.6 is a bit overfilled (as said by some trans builders)
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Great....I doubt if I was more than a quart low.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 159k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 179k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 145k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 77k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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As long as it is operating, I wouldn't see that there was anything to be concerned with - not yet anyway, provided it hasn't been run during such a loss that it overheated in the past.
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So, what, would it go into Limp Home Mode if fluid were sufficiently low?
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 159k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 179k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 145k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 77k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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I would imagine it would as soon as it detected a fault....
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My response was more of a symptoms-based transmission problem while either driving or at start-up and shifting into gear. I never had a problem with the driving aspects of my transmission. Never saw the limp mode either in 14 years, 131K miles. Do you have a set of records on that car to reference? The known unknowns surfacing about your car would cause me to want to visit with the previous owner(s) if I could. I performed a complete routine servicing of it's transmission myself just short of 100K miles, which was about 5-years after I bought it / put it into service. It never failed to perform for me.
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I suppose it's a good thing that the fill port was sealed. That greatly reduces the possibility the PO topped it off because it had a dangerously low fluid level. How low the fluid level got before the 35K mile resealing is another question.
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Interestingly, the port was sealed but the horizontal tab on the locking pin was broken off.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 159k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 179k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 145k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 77k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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My experience reflects that if you have a severe, immediate leak of transmission fluid (think blown hose) the car will stop before it ruins the transmission.
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I have never run a Merc out of fluid, but when I had a leaky hose on my Ford this is what happened.
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Not a tranny expert by any means, but...
I have to think that if you lost a cooler hose, or the pan breached by road debris, that the sudden loss of fluid would cause the internal hydraulic pressure to drop. This would cause the clutch(es) to drop out and effectively put you in neutral, no?
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Quote:
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I guess I should have said the car stops driving forward. It does not come to a stop as long ad there is some momentum.
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Jim |
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Is Redline D4 a proper ATF for this transmission? You aren't supposed to use so called "universal" transmission fluids.
I always use Shell ATF 134.
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