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ROLLGUY 06-06-2014 12:29 AM

As far as I know, all iron head engines had a gasket between the pump and block, and aluminum head engines had an Oring......Rich

Stretch 06-06-2014 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by funola (Post 3339414)
The lube is to unstick a possibly sticky gasket so it does not tear when turning the IP. Can you look up my IP and tell me if it uses a gasket or an o-ring between IP and block?
...

I'm pretty sure it is a gasket. (Especially if Rich says so)

It should be 0000748280 - this number appears to be NLA - you might (real risk here - just a guess so speak with the dealer!) get some joy with the same number but with the last four changed to 8380 - that costs about 5 euros at the dealer here in Holland.

1983/300CD 06-06-2014 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by funola (Post 3339414)
The lube is to unstick a possibly sticky gasket so it does not tear when turning the IP. Can you look up my IP and tell me if it uses a gasket or an o-ring between IP and block?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...602_141820.jpg

An original part would say W. Germany, wouldn't it?

funola 06-06-2014 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 1983/300CD (Post 3339473)
An original part would say W. Germany, wouldn't it?

IDK. When did W. Germany start labeling stuff made there "Germany".

1983/300CD 06-06-2014 08:55 AM

Reunification was is 1990.

Simpler=Better 06-06-2014 09:21 AM

61X uses a black papery gasket, you can see it in your picture.

To replace you need to pull the IP (not terribly hard but 500 little pieces come off first)

I'd loosen the 3 mounting bolts and spray penetrating lube on it to try and oil er up to prevent a break.

funola 06-06-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 1983/300CD (Post 3339522)
Reunification was is 1990.

My riveted door jamb VIN tag says "MADE IN GERMANY". Maybe Daimler-Benz AG knew around 1985 that Germany will be united in the not too distant future?

funola 06-06-2014 11:53 AM

I turned the cardboard templates into steel plates. :D
Now I have to scrounge around and see what I have in my scraps to weld up some kind of adjusting system. Any improvised ideas, not copying exactly what Mercedes did? I am thinking of welding in a used tie rod and possibly also the tie rod end.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...606_112441.jpg

winmutt 06-06-2014 01:51 PM

Plan b, part torque them and then use a hammer and implement (screwdriver chisel) to tap and rotate?

Stretch 06-06-2014 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by funola (Post 3339645)
...I am thinking of welding in a used tie rod and possibly also the tie rod end...

Sounds like a plan - after you've cut it down to size (note threads probably don't go all the way through so cut towards the left hand thread but allow space to cut your own right hand one) I'd weld on a nut that just slides over the outer diameter of the rod so you have a way of turning the tie rod with out mole grips

Stretch 06-06-2014 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by winmutt (Post 3339733)
Plan b, part torque them and then use a hammer and implement (screwdriver chisel) to tap and rotate?

Kind of what happens with out the special tool then I guess!

funola 06-07-2014 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stretch (Post 3339741)
Sounds like a plan - after you've cut it down to size (note threads probably don't go all the way through so cut towards the left hand thread but allow space to cut your own right hand one) I'd weld on a nut that just slides over the outer diameter of the rod so you have a way of turning the tie rod with out mole grips

Tie rod end ball joint is too big to fit in space available. I have other ideas.

funola 06-07-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by winmutt (Post 3339733)
Plan b, part torque them and then use a hammer and implement (screwdriver chisel) to tap and rotate?

Why plan B? I am not done with A yet.

Ritchie 06-07-2014 10:44 AM

TheDon mentioned a turnbuckle. These are cheap and don't require a lot force to adjust. Maybe a home made 'jack bolt' / bungee setup could work??

funola 06-07-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ritchie (Post 3340052)
TheDon mentioned a turnbuckle. These are cheap and don't require a lot force to adjust. Maybe a home made 'jack bolt' / bungee setup could work??

A turnbuckle of some kind will be used. it's the only mechanism that makes sense. A tie rod is a type of turnbuckle. The one (from a W123) I was thinking of using is just too big and would require too much work to make it work.


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