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The engine ran fine until the chain broke, it happened all of a sudden. Only thing to note is that under load and high rpm there was a noise coming from the front of the vehicle. I could not replicate it under normal conditions and whether it has any correlation to the chain breaking I don't know. I tried to dianose the noise but I could not narrow it down. It could have been anything, my a/c pump is seized, my alternator pulley makes noise, or just normal diesel noise, I don't know. My tower are intact. The arms and camshaft lobes have very bad wear and scoring on them. The only thing that actually broke was the chain. I will try to take pictures tomorrow, it is dark outside. |
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If this where my vehicle........................................ #1. Replace the valve guides, regardless. #2. Replace the cam shaft and towers. #3. Install a new head gasket. #4. Install a new timing chain. Enjoy the car. IMO: Going further may well run $3k - $7k, depending on parts / labor. Unless you are prepared to do 100% of the work, and live without the vehicle a month or more. .
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Good advice from all, so I will add nothing, except to ask, how many miles on the car when it happened and was it the original chain??
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The car had 232,385 miles on the original timing chain.
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I thought about just fixing the head and then putting the engine back together but I just wanted to get some opinions from the mercedes gurus on the forum. |
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Rough estimates for what I'd expect that to cost here in clog land => head gasket 80 euros - timing chain 80 euros (IWIS) - camshaft is about 100 euros (last time I looked) - should replace followers (about 25 euros each => 200 euros) - camshaft towers good second hand about 30 euros each => 150 euros (I think there are 5!) - valve guides are cheap but then valve seats need to be re-cut and then the valve should ideally be re-ground so a redone head is at least 300 euros here... ...that's the best part of a grand Now I know clog land != US of A but you know even with a fair amount of smart shopping I can't imagine it is going to be much under $500 I'm not trying to be negative but - well - you know????
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IMO it is cheaper and less work to put in a good used engine.
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