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Old 06-02-2021, 09:32 PM
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See the site I posted where the Guy did several oil analysis's after installing dueling the use of his washable Air Filters. And he is speaking of one made specifically by Farm.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/280376-washable-air-filter-intake-mod-larger-breather.html

I have the washable air filters on 2 of my frequently driven vehicles; the 84 Mercedes 300D and my Chevy Astro Van. And you can see from the date on the thread how long I have been using them (since July of 2010). I have 2 washables for each vehicle so I can swap and wash and dry.

Zero noticeable performance issues on either vehicle and the one on the Van is rather small and cannot be oversized as it has to fit into the stock Air Box.

The WA8039 Filter on the Mercedes is one used on the Largest Ford V-8 gasser Trucks and Vans.

On the Freeway that Van likes 70 mph and out of town has no issues going 90mph.

Notice that when others argue opinion I try to post some info beyond my opinion.
I notice that you don't address anyone else's explanation and come up with your own logic.


You're allowing more particles in your engines because the filters you're relying upon allow more dirt through. I said this already and you ignored it. How do I know this? Because you're now saying that there's no performance loss, which one wouldn't experience if the filters were letting in bigger particles like I said.
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Old 06-03-2021, 07:17 PM
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I notice that you don't address anyone else's explanation and come up with your own logic.


You're allowing more particles in your engines because the filters you're relying upon allow more dirt through. I said this already and you ignored it. How do I know this? Because you're now saying that there's no performance loss, which one wouldn't experience if the filters were letting in bigger particles like I said.
My Logic is I bought an air filter that happens to be washable from a well know Maker and I have posted a site where someone said they did more then one oil analysis to see if a washable filter by the same maker showed abnormal silica in the oil and the answer was no abnormal silica (you know science).

You have supplied zero to show that what you opinion is correct. You are again bearing false witness.

People can and will use what they want to on their individual vehicles.
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Old 06-04-2021, 07:23 PM
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Please go to the WIX site and look up some automotive Oil Filters. Pick a spin on filter for simplicity. On the list of specs you will see either a nominal micron rating or a beta rating that determine the level of filtration on that individual filter.
Wix is one of the few sites that has specs.

Go to their section on air filers and look up CA7421 (the regular disposable filter for my Van) in the competitors search. This will bring you to the Wix version for my van and look up on the list the filtration level in microns.

What I found when I looked 8 years ago was that there is no specs on the level of filtration of Wix automotive air filters. They do give a flow in cfm.

My brief look on the Fram site also did not show any level of filtration specs for even their disposable air filters.

With out any specs to compare how can someone say the washables don't filter as well as the disposables?
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Old 06-05-2021, 12:53 PM
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"Are Fram Air Filters bad? What some users say: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/are-fram-air-filters-bad-too.95566/

"I think their air filters are good. Consistent for the most part, that I've found, and they fit the airboxes most of the time. That seal seems to be a problem for me with other brands much more than Fram."

"They tend to fit better on my cars than the comparable Wix/STP's."


Note that I have found the seal issue with some brands. On some brands the seal is rather stiff and inelastic. The orange seal stuff on Frams is more elastic then most are.
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Old 06-05-2021, 04:47 PM
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While the last 2 pages were interesting to say the least, whatever in hell happened to staying on the original topic.......and people wonder why I post less and less to any forum these days......
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Old 06-06-2021, 03:40 PM
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While the last 2 pages were interesting to say the least, whatever in hell happened to staying on the original topic.......and people wonder why I post less and less to any forum these days......
Thanks for the comment.
In my opinion it is spill over from the other forum where anything goes where I have long standing arguments going on with 2 of the persons.

Anyway I will take your advice and will no longer post in this thread.

Best Wishes.
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Old 06-07-2021, 12:41 PM
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Bummer to hear about the arthritis .

I agree the orange rubber seals on the frams are nice .
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Old 06-11-2021, 03:17 AM
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I am not posting again on that thread any more.

No point in posting any more factual information. He has run away from the discussion.
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Old 06-08-2021, 02:51 AM
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I'd rather eat dirt than microplastics. It's natural at least.
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