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I feel that I should point something out here for all you 123 diesel modifiers.
The early 123 diesels (77 to about 80) have different manual transmissions, thus different bolt patterns on the transmissions than the late 123 diesels (about 80 'til the end of the series.) For this reason you need to make sure that you use the adapter plate for the transmission that you are using. This adapter plate bolts to the engine with four bolts that require flywheel removal to access. Then the transmission bolts to this plate. Even the incorrect adapter will bolt up by leaving out a few bolts, but will not accurately center the transmission. This COULD cause pilot bearing problems and rapid input shaft bearing wear. Have a great day, |
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i did a conversion for a guy this past winter. a shop quoted him $2300 for the job, and i charged him $1500. if your car really is a prime specimen, than it would be worth it. if not just go buy a 240d with a manual already.
good luck.
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I'm still scratching my head. It sounds like a lot of hassle.
I bought a 69 115 220D for $200. Good engine and trans. Well I guess you can argue about a 2.2 being a good engine, but it will last a long time. I wanted a spare trans. Then I changed my mind and decided that the W115 has much too much class to chop up and discard, so now I have a project car instead. I saw a fintail pickup at Metric Motors in Reno. Wow what a trip. The guy dropped a rear window behind the front seat and covered the back seat with a snap on cover. Then he dissapeared the back doors. The mother in law has to climb over the body to sit in the back seat. Sharp car, it's for sale. The W115 into a pick-up is a winter project. Fenders and doors from a boneyard, and fabricated pickup bed. Of course if I come across a 69 Mustang fastback rear deck, all bets are off. Whoa! I just visualised a 69 W115 220D with a fastback rear deck. So I bought a 77 240D for a spare trans. Also paid $200. After I got home I washed off the crud and found a beautiful straight, rust free body. Damn, another project car. Won't start, but I have a spare 2.4 anyway. The point is that I found two cars with manual trans in a few weeks for less than it would have cost for a used transmission. I think that would be easier to repair than a to convert. Off topic! How about putting a five cylinder 3.0 in front of a clutch? Anybody done that? That would be sporty. At least you can't already buy one original equip.
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I'm with you Flash123. I have a $250 1969 230 gas with stuck engine. The body and inside are excellent. I plan to put in a great running engine from a 300D with bad body, and add a 4spd from a rusty, low compression 220D. Both the 300D and 220D will get crushed after a strip party. All 3 cars cost about $1K (I did some swapping, that's why the "about".) Ron
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it has been four years since my post
how time flies the 240 d still sits there and it has been about 3 years since the 220d has been started
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69 220D not running 79 240D parts car 80 240D Beater runs everyday 81 300TD temp disabled cooling problem 82 300SD sweet |
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If you're any where near South Louisiana I've got a 1982 240 manual for sale dented right 1/4 but all body parts are here . weld it paint it,It will be sell able at $4'000. NO rust, No leaks A/C worked excellent upon accident. Heater was great also. This was MY baby but had to get another car when it was hit. couldn't wait. Interior excellent, Dash complete no aging,upholstery all good no tears. My favorite is the manual windows and manual roof. Will let it go for $700.00. I have all the body parts to fix it but haven't the time
PM me if you're around here or want pic's. Last edited by ray m; 01-05-2009 at 08:14 PM. |
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Winnemucca Nevada
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69 220D not running 79 240D parts car 80 240D Beater runs everyday 81 300TD temp disabled cooling problem 82 300SD sweet |
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I know this post is several years old, but I believe it is wrong. The early and late transmissions are different, but both should bolt up fine.
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The auto and manual plates were identical between my 240D and 300TD.
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Yes, mine too between a 617.950 and the early cast-iron 4 speed
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Soooo, if the plates are the same auto and manual, then when I get around to installing
the 4 speed manual into my cali. 85, I can use the same plate and still use the tach. The cali plate has the sensor mounted to pick up the signal from the flywheel. I did read on another thread that the plates have the same part#. Charlie
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but will the 240D flywheel have the sensor post? I dont remember seeing anything on my flywheel. the harmonic damper on mine has a small post sticking out for the RPM sensor
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The older split case tranny will bolt right up, but the throw out bearing my be different.
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