Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Mercedes-Benz Performance Paddock

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #121  
Old 01-16-2002, 11:40 AM
JimF's Avatar
'94 S500: only 793 sold!
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,933
Scott, this is a 'major' thread . . .

that's getting longer by the day.

You may recall that I also suggested the throttle cable/linkage but not sure you've tried that. Also the DI module, etc..

Please do us all a favor: summarize all of your 'fixes' done to date. This might give us (and you) a clue of what to do next.

"Inquiring minds want to know"

__________________
Regards . . . . JimF
-------------------
'94 S500 Cpe

Visit my Mercedes Web Page
Reply With Quote
  #122  
Old 03-15-2002, 11:18 AM
Marc Lenssen
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
stalling when making sharp turns

I too have that problem on my 1993 (M104) 300E 2.8.

When coming to a low speed, for instance when you want to park , the engine may cut out when turning the sterring wheel fast and full. You can already see the idle speed drop when making a short jab at the sterring wheel when standing still with a running motor. It happened to me also a few times that I was runningf at very low speed, trying to find a street name and that while turning the curb the car died on me. At first i figured that it would be the OVP that cuts out idle control valve or even the ECU but after replacing it and the fuel pump relais it still does it. My problem is accompanied by the engine misfiring, or even cutting out really briefly, while cruising at higher speeds on the freeway. Or actually any constant speed. My Benz dealer has also not been able to come up with even a suggetsion so I am more then curious about the outcome of this discussion.

Thanks and greetings,

marc
Reply With Quote
  #123  
Old 03-15-2002, 11:44 AM
Marc Lenssen
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
stalling when making sharp turns

I too have that problem on my 1993 (M104) 300E 2.8.

When coming to a low speed, for instance when you want to park , the engine may cut out when turning the sterring wheel fast and full. You can already see the idle speed drop when making a short jab at the sterring wheel when standing still with a running motor. It happened to me also a few times that I was runningf at very low speed, trying to find a street name and that while turning the curb the car died on me. At first i figured that it would be the OVP that cuts out idle control valve or even the ECU but after replacing it and the fuel pump relais it still does it. My problem is accompanied by the engine misfiring, or even cutting out really briefly, while cruising at higher speeds on the freeway. Or actually any constant speed. My Benz dealer has also not been able to come up with even a suggetsion so I am more then curious about the outcome of this discussion.

Thanks and greetings,

marc
Reply With Quote
  #124  
Old 03-22-2002, 01:37 AM
run.exe's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,371
the thread continues

All:

I will replace my water pump and re-seal my power steering pump's (minor, "O"-ring related) leaks, tomorrow afternoon.

Also, I plan to recharge my A/C system (for summer).

I will let everyone know if my stalling problem persists/ceases to be...

Thank you,
Reply With Quote
  #125  
Old 03-22-2002, 07:32 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 275
did you replace the brake light switch?
Reply With Quote
  #126  
Old 03-22-2002, 01:18 PM
run.exe's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,371
Bzoo

I will have this done, today, in addition to resealing my power steering pump and replacing my water pump.

Stay tuned...

Last edited by run.exe; 03-22-2002 at 03:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #127  
Old 03-23-2002, 02:42 AM
run.exe's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,371
22MAR02 update

All:

Having just:

- replaced my water pump
- resealed my power steering pump
- repalced my brake light switch

I am still stalling.

: (

Next, I will replace my A/C compressor + clutch; I suspect THEY are the culprits. I still have a leak, somewhere...
Reply With Quote
  #128  
Old 03-23-2002, 02:10 PM
roas
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Scott, I hate to see you going threw this, you are running out of parts to replace!

It may be unrelated but have you reviewed this thread? Is it possible that Mark Stetson's ASR problem he finally fixes on 2/10 is tied to your Stalling problem?

I can't remember if you have had the alternator checked as well, Dean had an ASR issue that you may want to review here. Good Luck...
Reply With Quote
  #129  
Old 03-23-2002, 05:59 PM
Marc Lenssen
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hick up and stalling.

Hello All,

Yesterday evening I tried checking my sparkplugs for the color. When checking the coils before exiting the plugs I found that one of them was not properly placed over the spark plug. Althought it was put in straight over the plug there was still one final click before it really set. After checking all of tem and really tighening them the hickups are gone,.....for now that is. I drove my car a some while today and it did not stall and it did not even hick up. So who knows, I keep my fingers crossed.

Greetings,

marc
Reply With Quote
  #130  
Old 03-23-2002, 07:24 PM
run.exe's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,371
roas

Thanks for your re-direct; I have, in fact eliminated ASR as the culprit.

My alternator was replaced, too, less than 4 months ago.

Still searching...
Reply With Quote
  #131  
Old 03-24-2002, 02:39 AM
ItalianBenz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: SouthBay area, So Cal
Posts: 811
Scott. I had this Similar complaint. Belive it or not its all tied into ASR. Rem that Stalling I'm sure just donest happen if you font make contact with the throttle does it. The reason I say this is
this has happened to me a few times. When Ever I check to codes with the HHT. It always pointed to ASR/electroic accelerator. Its a prett good educated guess and inexpensive one at that. To replaced your Neutral safety switch or more technical terms. The Electronic slector lever module.
I replaced it. Now more ASR limp home mode coming on.

Now IF you completey disabled ASR you stil stall out then more fishing to do. I'm curious How did you eliminate the ASR being the cuprit when ASR is soo intermitent.



Good Luck Guido
__________________
500E Sold
2006 Mini Cooper S
Modified,pulley,injectors,suspension
2009 E350 Sport AMG package
Reply With Quote
  #132  
Old 04-01-2002, 11:55 AM
Marc Lenssen
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Problems solved

Helo All,

Just a small update. After my last reply I drove my Benze for a few long runs and the usual city trips.

No more hick ups and stalling at all, everything smooth and fast.

Greetings,


marc
Reply With Quote
  #133  
Old 04-21-2002, 01:52 AM
arif's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 138
my 500 sel ASR light comes on and car loses power. After turning engine off and restarting everything is back to normal. Seems to happen at prolonged hi speed driving on freeway. Any ideas?????

dealer changed computer but nothing. Another mechanic changed throttle control valve actuator...still have problem.
Reply With Quote
  #134  
Old 04-21-2002, 08:13 AM
Marc Lenssen
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
stalling when cornering.

Hello Guys,

My 1993 300E 2.8 did the same thing. when cornering at low speed the engine would just cut out. Or when cruising at normal speeed on the highway it would hick up when hitting a bump. It turned out to be an ignition coil that didnt fully click in. This way the grounding was oke as long as the weight of the coil was enoug to keep it in its place. But cornering or bumping made the coil move and loose its ground, the ignition would then have a short failure and the ecu will shut down the injectors to protect the Cat from unburned fuel. After making certain that all coils were really fitted properly I have not had this problem again. I do loose my idle speed but in a different way and the hickups are cured.
Greets and good luck,

marc
Reply With Quote
  #135  
Old 06-22-2002, 09:13 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 20
hmm had same problem on Range Rover

Hi,

I had the same problem on a Range Rover with Bosch fuel injection too. Turns out that there is a g-force activated switch that will cut the fuel supply in the event of an accident (rapid decelleration). These are known to go bad and cut out while cornering. You should check your wiring diagram to see if you have one they are often under the drivers seat. If this is the problem the fix is really simple (solder a wire across the terminals).

Hope this helps,

Nicholas

__________________
Almost mint 1983 230E eurospec.
Honda civic for those not so mint moments.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
'75 240 D M-style IP Theory - Help! Fisherman Diesel Discussion 29 10-06-2011 08:06 PM
Anyone looking for a low milage 500E or E500? 16ver Mercedes-Benz Performance Paddock 2 11-06-2003 10:14 PM
400E / Low idle when engine running and engine dies curiousnoe Tech Help 1 08-04-2001 10:31 PM
Help: occasional rough idle + low oil pressure at idle eapowers Tech Help 2 07-23-2001 12:47 AM
off idle hesitation, low power M104 G-Man Tech Help 2 06-27-2001 01:24 AM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page