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Old 10-29-2002, 09:05 AM
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500E Brakes

I was on the track this weekend and experienced massive brake fade. The track I was on was a technical track with many turns. Main straight was less than a quarter mile long. The track has 6 main turns, one chicane and an S curve. Total track length is just a little over 2 miles.

Anyway, after two hard laps, a cool down lap and 2 harder laps, my brakes faded altogether...due to coolant boiling rather than because of the pads.

Here are some pics of the track:


The white evo in the pic is exiting the third turn. The yellow Porsche 911 Turbo (with a GT2 body kit, Turbo S turbo and suspension upgrade) is in the middle of the "S" curve i refer to.


The picture you see here shows you the entrance to the 4th turn which is a long, double apex left hander, immediately following the S curve of the previous pic.

And here's a pic of a cracked rotor from one of the SVT Lightnings that came with us:



(click on pics to enlarge)

I am currently using stock rotors with Textar yellow box pads front and rear.

I am looking to upgrade some of my brake components including:

1) Brake fluid to be replaced with ATE Super Blue (or Castrol SRF...any feedback on these?)
2) Upgrade to stainless steel brake lines
3) Replace pads with EBC Green Stuff
4) Replace rotors (I don't think they've been replaced for a while)
5) Install brake ducts

My questions are as follows:

1) Does anybody on this forum have any experience with any of the following (found on tirerack.com):
- Goodridge s/s brake lines
- Brembo replacement rotors
- EBC Sport Grooved Rotors

2) Are there better components (vs the above) that you would recommend? Anybody have any experience with Fischer Hydraulik brake lines? Where can I get them?

3) If I replace the front pads with EBC's Green Stuff, is it necessary to replace the rear pads as well? Will it affect the brake bias if I don't?

3) Where do I route the brake cooling hoses? Those of you who've put these in, can you provide pics? I checked under the car and am not sure where to route them.

Thanks!

Oh by the way, I spun, twice in a row, on the right hand turn before the one shown on the first pic...took the corner too fast, ASR engaged on exit, kicking the rear 90 degrees towards the outside of the track...I believe I over-corrected, and kicked the tail out on the other direction...then finally corrected and was able to set up for the next turn. Between my navigator (who was teaching me the lines screaming at me and all the lights on the dash "screaming" as well, it was pretty hoary...but good fun!
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Last edited by rainmaker; 10-29-2002 at 03:30 PM.
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