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Old 02-14-2009, 09:19 AM
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OM603 starter motor

I have a '87 W124 300d (6 cylinder, non-turbo) OM603.
Recently this car had a starter motor failure. I managed to purchase a second hand one, but I wish to repair the old one so I have a spare.

The starter motor has a planetary gear set with the outer being plastic gears (I presume Bosch believed the plastic would last a lot longer than 22 years) which in this case,lost several teeth and the plastic carrier for the intermediate gears is also cracked.

Can anyone advise where I can obtain this gear set?

Thanks,

Tony

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Fatmobile 3 84 300D 295kkm Silver grey/Blue int. 2 tank WVO - Recipient of TurboDesel engine.
Josephine '82 300D 390kkm White/Palamino int.
Elizabeth '81 280E, sporting a '79 300D engine.
Lucille '87 W124 300D non-turbo 6 cylinder OM603, Pearl Grey with light grey interior


Various parts cars including 280E, 230C & 300D in various states of disassembly.
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:04 AM
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Bosch Starter Planetary Gearset

O.K. the reply underneath this one (#3) has some likely Bosch sources.
('Hope they're within 20 miles of you!)

I know you'll need the Bosch Part Number for the starter,it'll be on the
number plate affixed to the body of the unit.

Go Here:http://www.bosch.com.au/content/language1/downloads/BOSCH_Starter_WEB.pdf
look for "Starter Motor Visual Identification Guide" on the left and click on it.
Scroll down until you see your Starter's10 digit Bosch number.

(We've just got to get you to a Bosch supplier in Oz.
They're showing "Repair kits" so I' m assuming [Hopefully] you can get it locally.)

More Bosch:http://www.bosch.com.au/content/language1/html/1287.htm
(They're kinda crafty about hiding their telephone numbers...in the US also)

What you're ideally looking for is a Bosch Service Station that works on
Diesel Injectors and Pumps(They are usually good people and if you have
a part number they'll try and order it for you.)


Second choice is a Starter Remanufacturer's shop ,They'll know how to get the planetary gears...

EDIT: Reverse the two paragraphs above.(...I'm never sure what I'm typing
is in relation to what I'm trying to say.)


?I think? you want this part #000 150 06 31 (It's number 17 on the parts list)

Ran across this company:Euro Parts America 1 (888) 360-3876
[They may not even be in the Western Hemisphere]


If it's available...I know Speed Autoteile will be able to get it.
(BUT, you may not be enthused with the price 'cause of distance)

Speed Autoteile
Automotive Spare Parts * Import - Export Automotive Spare Parts * import - export
Hohentwielsteig 3 Hohentwielsteig 3
14163 Berlin 14163 Berlin
PH: +49 / 030 / 852 40 56 PH: +49 / 030 / 852 40 56
FAX: +49 / 030 / 852 18 49 FAX: +49 / 030 / 852 18 49
E-Mail: info@speed-autoteile.com E-mail: info@speed-autoteile.com
Internet: www.speed-autoteile.com Internet: www.speed-autoteile.com

Vertretungsberechtigter Geschäftsführer: Uwe K. Küther General Manager: Uwe K. Küther

Steuernummer: 25/404/60636 Tax number: 25/404/60636
USt-Ident-Nr: DE 158 679 700 USt-Ident-Nr: DE 158 679 700
Zollnummer: DE 492 65 44 Customs number: DE 492 65 44


Check the RU site's pictograms below:
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:55 AM
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Bosch Distributors,shops,Etc. (in WA)

The only handicap you'll have, is having the Mercedes part number.BUT, "they"
should have cross reference lists to the Bosch parts numbers.

I'd start with:
1.King Park Auto Electrics ( I ?think? they're a rebuilder)
and then work my way through the list.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:47 AM
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compress ignite,
Thank you for a comprehensive package of assistance.

I have emailed the local Bosch Auto Electrical service centre quoting the specified 10 digit number for the starter and the parts kit for it, to ask about the availability and price of parts for this repair.

I may still need to contact the European contacts you have provided.

For reference:
the part number I copied from my starter motor is 0 001 218 021,
but the Bosch catalogue indicates it should be 0 001 218 165
This should be the same starter motor as the W201 190D and the MB100 van with the OM611.911 engine

Regards,
Tony
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Fatmobile 3 84 300D 295kkm Silver grey/Blue int. 2 tank WVO - Recipient of TurboDesel engine.
Josephine '82 300D 390kkm White/Palamino int.
Elizabeth '81 280E, sporting a '79 300D engine.
Lucille '87 W124 300D non-turbo 6 cylinder OM603, Pearl Grey with light grey interior


Various parts cars including 280E, 230C & 300D in various states of disassembly.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:56 AM
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Excellent!

let me know your outcome.

For comparison: The Planetary Gear Set replacement part # 000 150 06 31
[#17 in the RU site diagram] is available at any Mercedes dealer through the
parts system.Brumos in Jacksonville,Florida quotes $210.00 USD.

If you HAD TO you could order the part from :
Diesel Motors
1093-1101 Albany Highway
Bentley Wa 610
Tel (08) 0351 3888
Fax (08) 0351 3897
http://www.mbbentley.com.au
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Old 03-06-2009, 09:44 PM
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These people are showing the Stationary gear AND the drive

http://www.wai-wetherill.com/products/sresult1bom.cfm?ManufName=BOSCH&item=0-001-218-021
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