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Old 09-05-2004, 02:13 AM
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How to deal with a bad neighbor?

Mother in laws neighbor...Here is some history on the guy.

1) Retired.

2) Seems to bully everybody on the block around with threats. People will say things like "Whatever you do, don't get ____ upset."

3) Has complained about everything you can imagine. Calls the city on the smallest thing, you name it and he calls and complains. Although he has a shed built in his back yard that is against the Deed restrictions.

4) In the past when I lived here before he'd walk his dog and let it poo in my mother-n-laws yard.

5) In general: First class jerk.

For a short while we will be with the mother-in-law helping fix up the house and then find our own place. She needs a fence and I told her I would build one. We have two dogs (half Lab, half Australian Shep) that are little love dogs(as sweet as can be). I rigged this old bamboo fence-thing up to keep them in the yard for a couple of days.

In the morning they got out and ran into the Jerk's yard. I am unaware this happens. He then comes over to our house and starts to tell my MIL that he we have a "dog problem" and we need to fix it. I hear this, I understand that he is upset, even though I remember the kind of guy he is. I know that the fence is going up that day or the next and I will keep them on the porch in the meantime. But....then he says "I will shoot the dogs if I see them again. I will shoot them with my .38". At this point I can not sit on the couch and go to the front door.

At this point he is yelling and telling me my dogs "attacked his wife" and that she was scared for her life. (These dogs are harmless, there is no way this happened. One dog's name is "Swea-pea", she's such a baby). Then says he will hit the dogs with a stick if he sees them too. I try my best to remain calm but he is yelling and tells me to "go to hell". I tell him the fence is going up and to calm down that I apologize for the dogs in his yard, but there is no reason to act like this. Then he told me he was going to sue me. I told him that he may indimidate everybody on the block, but he did not scare me and to be nice and go inside his home.

Fence went up the next day.

First Hurricane. MIL garage is packed with odds and ends so we are parking the cars inbetween the houses for protection. I park as close to our house as I can. Day after the storm, my front right tire is flat. There is a screw in it. I can not be sure he did this, but it sure seems odd.

Today is storm number two and I had to pull my car in there again. This time the guy went and put up two stakes and a rope to indicate not to drive through his yard. We had not done this before, but now I feel that I may have a flat tire again. I feel that he is getting worked up over this.

The guy is a nut and a jerk. I wish I was an old man. If I was I'd punch him right in the jaw like he deserved. But being half his age this isn't an option-LOL.

Is him threatening to shoot my dogs against the law?

If my tire has a screw in it again after this storm, what should I do?

The thought of him hitting or hurting my dogs is an image in my head that makes me feel sick to my stomach. It really bothers me. I am scared that he might try to feed my dogs anti-freeze or something like that. I really worry about it, because the guy is such an ass.

Advice is welcome. I remember reading about another bully in a thread a while back.
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Old 09-05-2004, 02:18 AM
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shoot him six times with a big bore snubbie , works every time............

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Old 09-05-2004, 03:08 AM
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I had a guy threaten to kill my dog once. I told him

"Mister, you kill my dog, I'm digging two holes"
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Old 09-05-2004, 03:04 AM
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Is him threatening to shoot my dogs against the law?

If my tire has a screw in it again after this storm, what should I do?
I'm pretty sure that discharging a firearm in a residential area is a no-no, however there are communities that allow landowners to dispatch unleashed dogs on their properties, usually where there are livestock, such as poultry or other animals at risk from maurading dogs. I would check with your local police about the threat.

The screw in the tire is suspicious and should be reported to the police as a vandalism complaint, so that there is a record of the incident. Most "bullies" are cowards and windbags, hence the verbal attacks and threats of lawsuits. It would be interesting to find out if he's ever filed one. Some jurisdictions have online databases of civil suits searchable by name. Might be interesting to find out.

The key thing to keep in mind is that your MIL has to live there and if your presence is temporary, then perhaps it might not be a good idea to heat up the situation.
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Old 09-05-2004, 09:07 AM
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Hi Jason.

Sorry to hear about the problems your having.
Try this.

Keep a video camera handy.

Each time this jerk trespasses on your MIL property and does or says something stick the camera in his face.

Make sure the camera has the ability to record sound too.
This way anything he says or does will be recorded and can
be used just in case he desides to pull some funny stuff.

This alone might cool his big mouth down a bit.

Also in a friendly manner remind him that he has a nice
shed and it would be a shame if it needed to be torn down.
Inform him of the fact that you notified the police department
of the tensions between your family and him.(Tell them everything he said.)
At the same time remind him that the vandalism to your tire was
reported too at that time.

He's no going to do anything during the day.
If at all possible put a strong light on your car at night when
it is park next to the house this puts him in a position that he
could get caught if he does something to your car.
Or put a sprinkler on your car this way he'll have to get soaked
in order to get to your car.
Or put a lot of stuff in front of the tires, glass and anything that
makes a rackett when moved is prefered.
OR a combination of all.

Best thing to do would post a guard out of sight and when
he comes near the car welcome him with some buck shot
of a double barrel shot gun.LOL
DON'T do this YOU might be the one ending up in jail.


Once you have some proof that this guy is a lunatic then
your MIL can file for an order of protection.
This way each time this nutcase comes to close, your MIL
can call the police and they will arrest him.

But as I said, have a camera ready and record all his movements
on your MIL property.
Not his, because that would be a violation of his privacy.

Good luck.

Louis.
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Old 09-05-2004, 10:20 AM
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This guy sounds more than dangerous. You need to file a complaint with your local police department on his threat to shoot your dogs. I don't agree with the previous poster's idea to not complain in order to keep peace in the neighborhood. A visit from the cops is sometimes enough to calm a guy down, especially seing how he doesn't want to be friends anyway. Better he knows you mean business than to let some bully think he can get away with frightening people.

If you don't mind spending a few bucks, just the fact this guy has threatened to use a weapon is enough to get a restraining order on the guy so you can have him thrown in jail the next time he comes on MIL's property. Restraining orders are the best way to deal with *******s like this. If you and a few of your neighbors get them, when the cops come to the neighborhood they are going to have him pegged in advance as a known troublemaker who has threatened gunplay. They will haul his butt off to jail given any excuse, and also gives you a legal record that you have had trouble with the guy if he does attempt a frivolous suit.

Personally, I think anyone who wants to kill someone's lovable pet is a sociopath. Involve the police anytime you deal with the guy. That's what they are for. Also, make sure your up on local laws, what is the legal way to park off property, leash laws, firearm ordinances etc and observe then scrupously. Usually a short visit to your local police station will get you that kind of information.

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Old 09-05-2004, 04:27 PM
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Kirkvining already said it, a restraining order is probably the best way to go. I would also get an old beater pos car that leaks like crazy. Park it in his front yard and see what he does. He can't tow it and if he damages it you can get him for vandalism. Or you can just abandon it.
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Old 09-05-2004, 05:47 PM
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I assume that you have a shared driveway. Nice of him to stake out his property. I'd hire a surveyor to get an accurate property line. Then I would erect the tallest fence allowed by law.
Short term I would install a 300 Watt motion sensing light that covers your car and property. You can also pick up an outside video camera from Radio Shack and a time lapse video recorder. This will document any intrusions by your neighbor.
The restraining order is the way to go. As he has threatened to shoot your dogs (and you, catch my drift) the police will require him to turn in his weapons.
I would never turn my back on a bully, this only encourages them.
Good luck.
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Old 09-05-2004, 05:58 PM
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I agree with Kirt. File a complaint with the PD. Make sure you make it sound like he is unstable and you feared for your safety when he was ranting and raving. Anonymous call to the zoning commission regarding the shed. At the slightest provocation, call the PD again. Under no circumstances, get in a shouting match with him. You need to appear stable and him not. Eventually, he will crack a bit and say or do something that will get him arrested. Then, with a criminal charge against him, its civil suit time. That will shut the old SOB up....
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Old 09-05-2004, 06:54 PM
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I assume that you have a shared driveway. Nice of him to stake out his property. I'd hire a surveyor to get an accurate property line. Then I would erect the tallest fence allowed by law.
Short term I would install a 300 Watt motion sensing light that covers your car and property. You can also pick up an outside video camera from Radio Shack and a time lapse video recorder. This will document any intrusions by your neighbor.
The restraining order is the way to go. As he has threatened to shoot your dogs (and you, catch my drift) the police will require him to turn in his weapons.
I would never turn my back on a bully, this only encourages them.
Good luck.
I agree with this calling the police will only get his jolly's going, all old grumps are looking for is attention.

You could also give him a computer and he can rant on Mercedesshop with Kirk, if they get into a post war he surely won't have time to go outside and mess with your dog.
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Old 09-08-2004, 12:04 PM
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Cool How to deal with bad neighbor.

Jason, have you ever heard of Pool Shocker? This stuff is very super strong powder bleach to remove the gunk and algae(kids body fluids from pools) put this around your tires or other property and pour water on it. He or whoever walks in it and goes back into there house bleaches out there carpet with every foot step they make. If he's married like our not so nice guy where I live you'll here the best marital spat in decades.
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Old 09-08-2004, 03:37 PM
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Jason.

Better inform the MIL that once you move out
the bulling will resume and probably will be worse
than before.

Maybe you should build her a nice movie room in the basement.
With a state-of-the-art surround sound system and projector
TV.
She'll be spending a lot of time in the house, so she might as
well enjoy it.

Louis.
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:37 PM
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Get a copy of the famous line from the movie Network, " I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore" and blare it over and over and over, until he passes out.
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:39 PM
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Or you could just be civil and explain to him that you aren't intimidated by his ****, don't mess with you and don't mess with your MIL when you're gone as you will only be a short ride away and he'll have to deal with you.


Or, give him some Viagra, he probably needs to get laid and that might get him to ease up on everybody.
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:59 PM
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Or you could just be civil and explain to him that you aren't intimidated by his ****, don't mess with you and don't mess with your MIL when you're gone as you will only be a short ride away and he'll have to deal with you.


Or, give him some Viagra, he probably needs to get laid and that might get him to ease up on everybody.
That's actually what the guy wants, neighbors he can get into shouting matches with. He may actually be looking for a lawsuit - hoping he can get you mad enough to punch him or something. Again, what he doesn't want is police attention. The MIL, the other neighbor whose pet was threatened, they can stop this guy's antics by getting restraining orders. The minute it becomes known to police that threats to use guns are involved, they will take this guy very seriously. Also, pet killers tend to really piss people off, cops and judges included. It is said that every judge has a wife with a poodle named Buffy.

As far as the questions on guns, in Texas, and I suspect in many other states, that is left up to the judge. He can order someone to surrender their firearms and prohibit possession if there is a clear danger to the peace. An order of this type is entered with the FBI as well so that it pops up on a background check if the person attempts to purchase a weapon.
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