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09-06-2004, 05:15 PM
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I could find no census, but I found references to specific incedences
Some are dated and some are just op/ed pieces. This is from a 5 minute Google search. I think the problem is finding a good keyword search. I tried "Iraq" with various combos of "insurgency" "nationality" Syria" Palestinian" Syrian", etc. Somebody with a sociological bent might arrange better keywords and usage for the search.
B http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=63 http://home.cogeco.ca/~kurdistan3/29-5-04-opinion-baqi-syria-sponsor-terr.html http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,10420444%255E401,00.html http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1323 http://www.iraq.net/displayarticle4682.html 
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09-06-2004, 05:34 PM
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If they captured one, they'd parade him down Fifth Avenue. Try to Goolge up something on official figures for foreign fighters in Iraq. Nothing there. The reason is simple. Why would al-Queda waste resources in a place that does not offer what it wants - maximum civilian casualties, maximum horror, and maximum press? Do you think their purposes are served by knocking off a few GI's with roadside bombs? The entire assumption is ludicrous. The people of Iraq will be glad to do the job for them. Meanwhile, al-Queda sits in Pakistan planning their next operation in Anytown USA, not Bagdad,Iraq
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#63
09-06-2004, 05:39 PM
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Lack of evidence is evidence of lack?
You (typically) present lots of cherry-bomb innuendo but present ladyfinger evidence. My evidence was sparse, but existent while yours is.... I'd love to see evidence of your conspiracy if you'd not mind sharing it. Can't parade them, that's a violation of the Geneva Conventions.
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09-06-2004, 05:41 PM
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Let me know if you get something from someone who is actually counting the dead bodies, like the US Army for instance. No one doubts your going to get a few Ernest Hemingway types in the mix. Let me know of any evidence you have to the assertion that terrorists who wish to attack the US are flocking to Iraq to be killed. I am totally mystified by your link saying Iranian journalists had been captured in Iraq. Is the print media in Iran a new terrorist organization of some sort? Perhaps we will get lucky and Geraldo will sneek in. Seems like you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel to prove your point. Last edited by KirkVining; 09-06-2004 at 05:47 PM.
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09-06-2004, 05:42 PM
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BTW, where's that guy from who is running the local Al Queda group in Iraq. You know, who has taken responsibility for many of the kidnappings.
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09-06-2004, 05:50 PM
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By P. Mitchell Prothero Published 6/23/2004 1:17 PM BAGHDAD, Iraq, June 23 (UPI) -- Increasing numbers of foreign Islamic fighters entering Iraq have taken almost complete control of one Iraqi city, according to current and former U.S. intelligence sources, threatening to further destabilize the country in the lead-up to the June 30 handover of sovereignty. Current U.S. intelligence sources have told United Press International that although the Syrian border continues to be a busy transit point for small groups of foreign fighters to enter Iraq to fight U.S. forces, Yemen and the Red Sea coast of Africa has become a major staging area and transit point for men and supplies to enter Iraq. These concerns are confirmed as a variety of sources from both Iraqis and Western security experts operating in Iraq describe a major presence of foreign fighters from Syria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan in the restive Iraqi city of Fallujah. The center of Iraqi resistance to the American occupation since last year's invasion, Fallujah became a killing ground after the murders of four U.S. security contractors in early April, which led to a three-week siege of the city by U.S. Marines that killed hundreds. After the U.S. withdrew from the city of mare than 300,000 people, a force of local militia took responsibility for security in the area, a move that locals and intelligence officials say have allowed radical militants to control it. According to residents, an entire neighborhood of Fallujah -- called Golan -- has become a haven for foreign fighters who control the city and operate without regard to the authority of either the Iraqi police or the American-formed Fallujah militia. "Most of Fallujah hates the Americans, but we all ask why they came and killed so many people and (have) not finished the job," one resident told United Press International.
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09-06-2004, 05:54 PM
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Zawari or something close. He is from Jordan, however he has been at war in Iraq since before 911. Kurdistan became a de facto state in 1991, due to our protection of this region. Zawari has been at war with the powers that be in Kurdistan since that time in the attempt to set up a Taliban state, and he was at war with Saddam as well. He met with bin Laden in the 90's to enlist his help in that effort. In the scheme of things, he is not a very big player in the Iraqi insurgency, but we blame him for everything we can.
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09-06-2004, 05:56 PM
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09-06-2004, 05:58 PM
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09-06-2004, 06:05 PM
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09-06-2004, 06:08 PM
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Perhaps you need to ask yourself why there is no official information on this subject at all, and that you are forced to search for crumbs among Austrailian and English tabloid websites. Ask yourself why the only stories on it are unsunstantiated moonie stuff. It would seem to me that the Bush camp would make a great effort to publicize any official information they have on foriegn terrorist groups operating in Iraq. In fact, we seem to a paucity of information.
Also, one might ask, if there are indeed known staging areas for supplying terrorists from Syria and Yemen, why hasn't the US Air Force dispatched them?
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09-06-2004, 06:15 PM
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Uncertainty regarding the level or depth of al-Qaida presence in Iraq remains elusive due to a lack of non-politicized intelligence on its activities in that country. Most of the other foriegners you describe are localized supporters, if you actually read the article, you'll find it is all tribal stuff, i.e. goat farmers coming to the aid of other goat farmers. Come on dude - no big battles with foriegners, no dead bodies, no captives, nothing real. Get some reality, moonie man.
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