Was that right, people up north are paying a grand an ounce? That just doesn't sound right, here it's more like $50 an ounce, but probably not nearly as good as the stuff for a grand I guess. For the price difference though I'll keep mine.

I've heard the same thing from my relatives in New Hampshire. Its now retailed in $100 quarter ounces, which works out to a retail value of over 4k a lb. It's even higher than that in New York City, where needledick J's are running 5$-10$ a piece. The guys who are moving heavy weight between Houston and NE have got to be making the kind of money that makes crime worth the risk. It is really a supply and demand thing. It has become so mainstream up there, even grandma is tokin. There are millions of people from all walks of life who want the stuff, and they will pay a lot a cash for it. Think how much tax money the government is missing out on with mark-ups like that.

i was told by an old friend who is still heavily a pot head.

you can still find those wild patches in northern indiana but be careful they are there for a reason and someone is watching.

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In Texas, the cops simply don't have the resources to stake out small personal patches growing out in the wildnerness, but they still are looking for people trying to run big growing operations. But there is a lot of stuff that is coming from farms where the owners of a ranch are the ones growing a small side crop. While rangers and BP stumble over patches in the wilderness, its damn hard to control 300 plants growing on a 3000 acre private corn field.

I've actually heard the best stateside stuff grows during a very short growing season for it, in Washington state. Funny how the forum members from there have been silent on the subject, hmm?

Trust me -- anything growing wild that far north is pure crap. Now growing cultivated is undoubtedly a different story. My cousin, yeah -- must have been my cousin -- used to grow his own indoors, and it was kickass. He used exclusively Hawaiian seeds. There are a lot of little tricks involved in squeezing quality and quantity from an indoor crop that just don't apply to the great outdoors. Anyway, that was long ago -- my cousin hasn't indulged in many years...

Well, my cousin even went so far to incule a semester of horticulture in his education, and came to a deep understanding of the methods involved in producing a few fine specimens in the closet under the stairs. Good seeds, he said, are the key. As a result he carefully graded and sorted ones that somehow came in his possesion.

Ah yes, that's certainly a key, but there are many other factors as well, or so my cousin informed me. Strength, duration, and consistence of lighting is critical. It's also very important that the plants make no physical contact with each other (in the quest for quantity). Did you know that these infernal weeds can actually change sex when confronted with an opportunity? Physical contact with other plants apparently spawns that opportunity.

yes, I knew all, I mean, my cousin knew all those things. In fact he used a timer to make sure length of day was precisely correct, and executed any plant that showed even the hint of maleness. His rewards were great. An electric heater also helped maintain the temperture to that of a Moroccan spring, as well. High tempture plays a surprisingly big role.

Did you ever have a ♀plant turn ♂ after touching another ♀? My cousin did. He was fit to be tied as I recall.

No, or if I did I didn't realize it. I never had more than one or two going at one time anyway, and like I said, in Texas you do a little of that just to try it, but the economics just get silly after a while. There are places here that are remote and vast beyond imagining, so why go thru all that trouble when you can play Johnny Pot Seed. Eastern Texas has national forests the size of some states, with plentiful rainfall and ample sun. South West Texas has pretty much the same weather and soil as Mexico, and as Deisel4me pointed out, what you don't get for quality you can make up in low price.

Jim's500E: 4-5k/pound seems high to me, even for high grade.(according to DARE, of course). Maybe it is location? I noticed Kirk mentioned that in New Hampshire quarter ounces are $100, which actually works out to $6400 an O. quite steep. I know some guys in Connecticut that would pay $60 for what I could get for $30. Is there a dry spell up there in New England? Common sense has me thinking that a closer proximity to Canada should equal cheaper prices, but who knows.*

Kirk: I tend to think that anyone paying $5-10 for pinners in NYC is either a special occasion smoker who's not concerned about price, or is just dense. I am pretty sure you can find better prices in the city, I know on Long Island you can.*


*I do not under any circumstances condone the growing, use, or sale of marijuana, unless it is sanctioned by state or federal authorities. The preceding paragraphs were posted solely for inquisitive and argumentative purposes.

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Nearly 40 years ago I bought a half-kilo in Cartegena for $20.

I wonder what the retail cost would be if the risk factor for wholesaling were to disappear?

Assume that it costs a farmer $50 to produce a pressed, packaged kilogram of dried weed with a 30% profit. What does it cost to ship say, a shipping container of some non-hazardous, unrefrigerated cargo from Cartegena to a warehouse in New Orleans? Say 5 tons fits in a container--I have no idea how much actual tonnage, but 5 is easy to work with. Lets put an import duty on the cost of say, 100% so that brings the cost per kilo at the warehouse from $50 to $100 plus shipping charges of say, 10% = $110/kilo.

Now you have all the value added stuff retailers like: advertising, packaging, distribution, state and local taxes, etc. Lets say you get a 200% mark-up. Now that kilogram costs $220 or about $7/ounce. This is broken-up and sold by the ounce. Lets give it about 200% mark-up and make that sucker cost an even $20/oz.

Currently an ounce costs $50. So, the risk factor is $30 which accrues to each exchange from farmer to doper. Who gets that $30? I ain't Mother Teresa.

In other words, this insane drug prohibition puts teenagers in jail, ruining their lives and through impoverishment, the lives of their families in some instances. It lines the pockets of dangerous criminal organizations who must subvert the financial system of 'host' countries in order to hide their profits--further decaying society.

It costs the taxpayer billions of dollars in a ludicrous war against drugs--while infringing on personal liberty.

Weed is so innocuous, it is just stupid to maintain its illegality, whether or not it has any medicinal value. Worse, it criminalizes personal behavior and makes extremely bad people, extremely rich.

I haven't smoked that crap in 30 years. The risk to me at this stage in my life is intolerable. But if it were legal, I'd be a weekender growing large on twinkies and soft drinks.

Your tax dollars at work.

You mean your cousin, dont you?



Sad we have to be all hush hush about a damn plant... Just say no kids...

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