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Old 01-19-2005, 07:33 AM
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To catch a thief....

One of my friggin kis is swiping money from me!

I generally leave my wallet with acash all over the place and never count what I have, just a general idea.

Lately, I have been thinking I am missing some $$$.

100 bill one day, a 20 here and there.

This past weekend I told my wife(she always tells me when she takes money) and explained to her the different times I have been missing some.

Anyway, I started counting every night 3 day ago, on Monday, and wrote the total down prior to sleeping.

Last night, I had $156.00. This morning, I have 116.00

So I have eliminated any friends that come over and narrowed it down to my son and step-son.

I'm more disappointed than upset. I swiped $$ from my parents to, so now I know how they felt.

I just want to stop them before it becomes a habit.

Last night, they were beggin me for $$ to buy Pizza for their friends.

My son I know was broke, becasue if he has it, he spends it. Teh step-son, on the other hand has money saved and will not touch it for food, drink, etc....

I could always start breaking stuff that they treasure until they admit it, then reimburse the innocent one.

I just need to know.

How about an elaborate trap?

Suggestions are welocme and appreciated.

Any ideas on how to pin the culprit down, short of killing them?
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Old 01-19-2005, 07:45 AM
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Have you actually sat them down and talked to them? Might be a good idea to let them know your suspicions and what will be the consequences if it continues and if they get caught. Seems like some plain simple values need to be redefined.
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Old 01-19-2005, 07:52 AM
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A nannycam..................a miniture camera pointed on where you leave the money. hooked to a hidden VCR .........................its positive proof............but only show them the proof if they lie about it....I would give them a chance to admit to it when confronted............In a calm manner of course. In this way you don't have to look at everyone as the guilty culprit....2 of the 3 are likely innocent.
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Old 01-19-2005, 08:11 AM
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A nannycam..................a miniture camera pointed on where you leave the money. hooked to a hidden VCR .........................its positive proof............but only show them the proof if they lie about it....I would give them a chance to admit to it when confronted............In a calm manner of course. In this way you don't have to look at everyone as the guilty culprit....2 of the 3 are likely innocent.

Are there any types of video cameras that I can hook up to the cpu via a USB port that tape onto the hard drive?

I usually leave my wallet on my desk and a vcr would be difficult to place in the area w/o raising suspicion.
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Old 01-19-2005, 08:16 AM
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I bought a camera on E-bay that was disguised as a cell phone that transmitted the image to a reciever (like a cordless phone) then to TV, VCR etc. Very cool used to catch thief at work. As I recall it was <$40.
Now I use it to watch the thermometer on the smoker outside hooked to input #2 on TV with PIP.
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Old 01-19-2005, 08:21 AM
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Are there any types of video cameras that I can hook up to the cpu via a USB port that tape onto the hard drive?

I usually leave my wallet on my desk and a vcr would be difficult to place in the area w/o raising suspicion.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41969&item=5949706782&rd=1

this will accept any standard spy cam.................. there are a lot of them up on ebay.....

This way you don't bring down your wrath on the wrong people.

it will let you know who to focus on.............if they continue to lie then when all else fails show them...............after a healthy grounding.
best part is it can run 24X7 and recycle the same hard drive space....and no problem forgetting to rewind a tape.
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Just empty your wallet every night and leave a note in there saying, you have been caught, there is no money but your fingerprint is here so back away from my moooney. Take this card if I know you will never again do this and lets forget about it. Or I will come after you with a dull knife at night and murder you very slowly and painfully.
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Old 01-19-2005, 03:26 PM
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Are there any types of video cameras that I can hook up to the cpu via a USB port that tape onto the hard drive?

I usually leave my wallet on my desk and a vcr would be difficult to place in the area w/o raising suspicion.
You can do this easily if you have a USB or Firewire camcorder and there is a ton of free software.
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Mark all the bills so you could identify them somewhat easily, then go through there wallet.
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Old 01-19-2005, 06:25 PM
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You can do this easily if you have a USB or Firewire camcorder and there is a ton of free software.

Where/what how? Is it difficult?

I really want to catch them in the act. It will be more fun that way.

I forgot to mention that I was going to mark the bills last night but forgot. Had I done that, I would have all the proof I need with the cash in his wallet.
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Old 01-19-2005, 08:14 AM
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A nannycam..................a miniture camera pointed on where you leave the money. hooked to a hidden VCR .........................its positive proof............but only show them the proof if they lie about it....I would give them a chance to admit to it when confronted............In a calm manner of course. In this way you don't have to look at everyone as the guilty culprit....2 of the 3 are likely innocent.
My wife is completely innocent. She always leaves me notes if she needs petty cash and takes it.

It has to be one of those little bastards that live here.

I've been paying attention lately to the late evening hours(11PM) becasue their friends are usually gone by then, this way i have eliminated them.

They are both up earlier than I am, so I narrowed it down to it having happened this morning. I counted prior to going to bed last night.
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Old 01-19-2005, 08:07 AM
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Have you actually sat them down and talked to them? Might be a good idea to let them know your suspicions and what will be the consequences if it continues and if they get caught. Seems like some plain simple values need to be redefined.
I agree about the values being redefined as they are both good kids.

That being said, asking them will probably not work. They'll deny it unless I have proof.

I was thinking that I might take away there favorite things, like Ipods, video games, DVD's, etc... and ban them to their rooms until someone confesses with the threat of destruction to those things if they don't.

Just a thought.

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Old 01-20-2005, 11:56 PM
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Well, I finally got him with some marked bills in his wallet he swiped this afternoon and he denied it at first until I showed him the marked bills and he came clean, which I doubted cause he's so stubborn.

He was embarrased and surprised although he's like me and being apologetic is not in him.

I had a long talk with him, discussing the virtues of honesty and trust and took away his beloved IPOD as payment and punishment along with a "no friends allowed over" until further notice edict. Plus I got my money back as well.

I was so pissed that I couldn't think straight and perhaps left some punishment on the table. I left it open to change when I calmed down.

He's very lucky that he fessed up pretty quickly or he would be missing teeth right about now.

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Old 01-21-2005, 12:35 AM
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which boy did it? the 15/16 or the 17/18?
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Old 01-21-2005, 08:06 AM
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which boy did it? the 15/16 or the 17/18?
The 15/16.

I'll have another talk with him today after school.

The irony is that he got the highest midterm exam score in the entire school in language arts, which he had benn only getting a C. All the rest of his grades are A's and B's.
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