http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Katrina%20Debit%20Cards

What do you think?

Normally they get cash which can be used to buy drugs and other bad stuff, its a good idea. I'm sure people will trade goods for drugs and buy things they don't need but if they were worth saving they must be good right?

right just what they need more welfare....


how about getting them jobs and make them earn their keep......what a novel concept.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Many of them are working class, its hard for them to get jobs with no clothes.

What I mean is in the spirit of the CCC corps during the depression.

Instead of having them sit on their butts and brood....give them jobs picking up trash along highways...cutting brush....stuff like that...

If you are going to be handing out money, get something for it....and it takes their mind off of their problems...

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

I think socialism has evolved since then, Bone. Incrementalism is your friend if you wish to avoid mass murder status while steering a nation off course politically

You make a good point Bone and I agree with you. BUT once reality kicks in and Oprah has her say it'll be more trouble than its worth.

not really big on this but then they do need something.

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we agree. I just think it should be a free something. Let's require some effort as a principle.

bucket brigade?

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*in boistrous and deep tone* Bring me a bucket!!!!!! . Monty Python, The Meaning Of Life.

Well sitting around moping and brooding is not doing them any good....give them a temp job in the spirit of the CCC corps...it gives them something to do..takes their mind off of brooding and moping around...its easy to get lazy and turn into a couch potato with free handouts.

By all means keep them from starving but also give them something productive to do all day...with the sort of job I was describing.

I hate welfare....this is not welfare.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

I agree 100% No work No cash New Orleans will need many to help clean up the mess.

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Stylish seized clothing headed to refugees
Tue Sep 6, 2005 4:09 PM ET

HOUSTON, Sept 6 (Reuters) - Three truckloads of fashion clothing seized by government agents for violating import quotas arrived at Houston's Astrodome on Wednesday so Hurricane Katrina refugees there can put it to use.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection delivered about 100,000 items of summer clothing, with an estimated value of $2.3 million, and said much more is on the way to evacuees elsewhere.

"We normally would either sell this merchandise or destroy it," said Robert Trotter, the agency's director of field operations. "Or we would donate it on a smaller scale."

Some of the items are fakes, but Trotter said most are legitimate.

The hurricane relief operation, aimed at the more than 1 million Gulf Coast residents displaced by Katrina last week, will involve a total of $168 million worth of clothing.

The items delivered on Tuesday, much of it with designer labels like Fubu and Code Blue, were handed to the Red Cross and local church officials who were to distribute it.

"They will be able to tell us specifically what they want and a personal shopper will go back and get it for them," said Mike Firenza of St. Luke's Methodist Church. "It will be one of the finest-dressed shelters that there's ever been."

The Astrodome, a 40-year-old sports stadium that had fallen into disuse recently, housed about 16,000 refugees on Tuesday. Three other major shelters in Houston housed a total of 10,000.

Oh my god.

Just as fast as I bash him I have to agree with him. (BHD)

Did you see all that liter and crap and those streets? Make them work an 8-10 hour day for that money. Feed them, etc. But make them earn it!

On the other hand, if we use the labor that BHD is talking about how will the big-wig contractors make as much money? We can't have that!!! Better to just let Haliburton and Friends come in and do the work. This way we can pay for it twice. Once in the form of the handout, and once in the form of Hali & Co.

But I have to give BHD credit. It *would* make perfect sense...

Pete