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unfortunately some artists get hurt in the crossfire. But the RIAA wants it their way and well...I think they have gone too far. And am taking my stand, against them (RIAA and the status quo)...not against the artist.
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Quite frankly the whole copywrite notion as it currently exists is a complete rip-off. Patents, which are also for the protection of intellectual property only last for 17 years. Why then are written text, movies, or music so special that the protection lasts forever? They are not any more special!!! Should all be changed to be the same as a Patent, 17 years and you have to prove that your item is actually new and different!!! Otherwise forget it.
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And in the news.....
New Website Allows Users to Trade CDs Web Editor: Raymond Ruda Originally Created: 3/7/2006 12:00:00 AM Last Update: 3/7/2006 1:16:15 PM The site, Lala.com, carries no inventory; it's more like eBay than used CD sites such as Djangomusic.com. How it works: Users start by listing all their CDs. Then they look at menus of available CDs or through other people's CD collections, clicking on those they'd like to receive. A request, say, for Coldplay's X&Y, generates a blind notice to anyone who has that CD that someone wants it. The first to agree to send it sees the address of the person who wants the CD, then mails it in a pre-paid envelope (which La La sends users when they sign up). La La users get charged $1 for each CD they receive. They have to send a CD to get a CD, which is supposed to prevent anyone from abusing the system by only receiving CDs. Users are instructed to send the original CD, not a copy. At launch, La La will be a "closed beta" -you have to be invited to use it until the site goes live this summer. Though La La is the first high-profile site to create a CD-trading market, analysts say others will follow. At a Billboard magazine conference last week, MySpace executives said it's "worth exploring" ways to incorporate eBay-like music trading capabilities. "This legal peer-to-peer music trading is going to be something you'll see a lot more of," says Rich Greenfield, media analyst at Pali Research. While LaLa.com "is not a slam-dunk, it could tap a new vein in digital and analog music," says Tim Bajarin, analyst at Creative Strategies. Palo Alto, Calif.-based La La - which got $9 million in venture capital - might only be a niche player on its own, Bajarin says. But it could be powerful if bought by an entity such as MySpace or AOL and incorporated into established communities. "I would not be surprised if that is part of the real goal," Bajarin says. Music companies are trying to figure out what La La might mean to them. Online trading could hurt sales if users can legally trade for a CD they might otherwise buy. But La La CEO Bill Nguyen - who previously started and sold Seven Networks and Onebox.com - says he is reaching out to record labels. His pitch: Through trading, users typically will get only 10% to 20% of the CDs they want. For the CDs not available through trading, record companies could offer La La users new CDs or downloads. "They could target people who want that CD" simply by seeing who was requesting it, Nguyen says. Artists might support the site: Nguyen says he wants to funnel a cut of La-La's profits back to artists whose CDs get traded. "I don't have any problems with the idea," says Chris Collingwood of the band Fountains of Wayne. USA Today
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and the very few that I have I gotten outside the USA. (they weren't US bands anyway). The exception I make as far as bands go is pretty limited....Metallica, Bruce Springstein are two that I refuse to purchase on principle due to their actions. The rest are unfortunate fallout over the RIAA Nazi's. Like I said...I own 700 original LP's adn CD's... I'm not opposed to actually buying the stuff under normal conditions.
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Would you boycott a business that openly supports the KKK, Loius Fraudikhan...or openly supports taking away your rights even if a few innocent people end up suffering? How about innocent employees of Enron who had nothing to do with that scam....or Worldcom.... see my point.
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Mike, where can I get some of your stuff? Is it available commercially? What is it called?
Thanks
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ENRON plays bad guy....we had to stop them and damned if the innocent employees get hurt...
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I'm in the music industry as well, similar scale as Mike but in Canada. We've released two CDs. The way I see it is that the entire entertainment industry is in a state of flux, and is struggling to keep pace with technology. Back in the day, you couldn't very well 'burn' an LP could you? With new wireless technology becoming ubiquitous, the industry is struggling to catch up and write and amend laws even as newer technologies render them impotent.
No matter how you cut it, downloading music you haven't paid for is illegal. Even if you own the music in another format, it doesn't give you the right to illegally download the same file. Put it this way - if you bought an LP back in the day, did it give you the right to walk into another record store down the street and take another copy of the LP just because you bought one already? I think the system will inevitably shift to a kind of barter system. You'll get free downloads to sample and if you enjoy it, you'll be asked to contribute an amount. There's no stopping pirated downloads and I think the RIAA is wasting time in trying to sue people. It's a mess any way you look at it.
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