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Old 04-12-2006, 05:16 PM
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I don't get it...

Why is a jury in the United States contemplating handing a death sentence to an individual (Moussaoui) for doing nothing? Is there a precedent here? I am absolutely dumbfounded......
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Old 04-12-2006, 05:20 PM
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Why is a jury in the United States contemplating handing a death sentence to an individual (Moussaoui) for doing nothing? Is there a precedent here? I am absolutely dumbfounded......

The blame-game baby.
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I don't think Charles Manson did anything either.
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Old 04-12-2006, 05:45 PM
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I believe the official reason is that he lied to the FBI about it before it happened, saying he didn't know anything about any Al-Qaeda plots.

Seems he 'fessed up to it during the trial, if you believe him. I have to say, his testimony reminded me a little of that guy, Colin something or other, who shot up a train in or around New York and then represented himself in court. Anyone remember that? He was some kind of wacko.
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Old 04-12-2006, 05:49 PM
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I believe the official reason is that he lied to the FBI about it before it happened, saying he didn't know anything about any Al-Qaeda plots.

Seems he 'fessed up to it during the trial, if you believe him. I have to say, his testimony reminded me a little of that guy, Colin something or other, who shot up a train in or around New York and then represented himself in court. Anyone remember that? He was some kind of wacko.
Right -- the guy is clearly unhinged -- who knows what to believe. Regardless, I didn't know that either lying or failing to act was a capital offense. Does anyone here really believe that an admission from this nutcake before 9/11 would have prevented the tragedy? Personally, I find it extremely unlikely.
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Old 04-12-2006, 06:20 PM
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Right -- the guy is clearly unhinged -- who knows what to believe. Regardless, I didn't know that either lying or failing to act was a capital offense. Does anyone here really believe that an admission from this nutcake before 9/11 would have prevented the tragedy? Personally, I find it extremely unlikely.
In my legal experience as a botanist, as I understand the charge, he knowingly concealed a conspiracy in which he was engaged, information about which would have foiled the events of 9/11, making him an equally culpable co-conspirator.

Charles Manson wasn't executed, so that may not be a perfect example.

I'm not sure whether I am sold on this theory of culpability, either. Something about it makes me uncomfortable. But then, I am not completely enamored of capital punishment, especially at the federal level.

As I've said elsewhere, I think a fitting punishment would be life without parole on a working pig farm. He can clean the sty. For life.

But that's just me.

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Old 04-12-2006, 06:28 PM
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Right -- the guy is clearly unhinged -- who knows what to believe. Regardless, I didn't know that either lying or failing to act was a capital offense. Does anyone here really believe that an admission from this nutcake before 9/11 would have prevented the tragedy? Personally, I find it extremely unlikely.
I agree. It takes 'failure to assist' to new heights of culpability.

I think that the execution will be about the ploting of 911, even if the charges do not say it directly.

Based on the record, he could have shouted it from the rooftops and nothing would have come of it.
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Old 04-12-2006, 10:01 PM
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Right -- the guy is clearly unhinged -- who knows what to believe. Regardless, I didn't know that either lying or failing to act was a capital offense. Does anyone here really believe that an admission from this nutcake before 9/11 would have prevented the tragedy? Personally, I find it extremely unlikely.
I tend to agree with that and to expect such a person to rat out on a plot is unrealistic to the max. Perhaps they want to kill him so he'll become a martyr and rallying point for more terrorism.

I say deprive the guy of his rendevous with the 72 virgins, give or take 5 or 6.
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Old 04-15-2006, 08:04 PM
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Right -- the guy is clearly unhinged -- who knows what to believe. Regardless, I didn't know that either lying or failing to act was a capital offense. Does anyone here really believe that an admission from this nutcake before 9/11 would have prevented the tragedy? Personally, I find it extremely unlikely.
Having foreknowledge of the event and intentionally lying about it certainly makes him an accessory.

I tend to think that for being an accessory to 3,000+ murders, the death sentence is actually much too lenient.

I think he should endure 3,000 days of horrible, barbaric, medieval-style torture first. And force him to eat pork for every meal of every day.

Then we should let a WOMAN put a bullet in his head, just to add a final, sarcastic insult to the equation.

That's a good start.

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Old 04-13-2006, 01:30 PM
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Why is a jury in the United States contemplating handing a death sentence to an individual (Moussaoui) for doing nothing? Is there a precedent here? I am absolutely dumbfounded......
Politics + upcoming election = SOMEBODY has to "pay" for 9-11.

Honestly, I have not been following the story closely as it seems television viewing falls to last on the list these days. Perhaps that is a good thing, along with the 16 pounds I've lost since my honeymoon last June.

Marriage is good.
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Old 04-13-2006, 04:03 PM
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OK, he just testified. **** him. If he wants to die that bad, let him. I can't begin to recant what the reporter just relayed but one of the things he said was that he would kill every american he could while in prison and do everything he could to help organize any terrorist act he could against this country or americans. Now, of course one could argue that since he said that, he just wants to be put down so lets keep him alive and punish him more. I disagree. Let him waive his appeals and put him down. It is a fairly quick process at the Federal level anyway.
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Yeah, he seems to want it, alright. I guess that's not too surprising, though. If I were him I think it might seem like the better option, too.
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:37 PM
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He is lucky he is getting a trial. If I were in charge he would have been shot years ago.

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Old 04-13-2006, 07:36 PM
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Why is a jury in the United States contemplating handing a death sentence to an individual (Moussaoui) for doing nothing? Is there a precedent here? I am absolutely dumbfounded......
Moussaoui said he had "no regret, no remorse" about the 9/11 attacks. Asked by prosecutor Rob Spencer if he would like to see it happen again, Moussaoui responded: "Every day until we get you."

Moussaoui also said on cross-examination that he is convinced President Bush will free him before the end of his term and that he will return to London.

Let's make this the precedent for those Islamic bastards. I believe at that most he was a conspirator in the attack, in the least a rejected attacker. Either way, the world be a better place without him.

The Death penalty would be to good for Moussaoui. I'd like to see him jailed for life with Buba and his boys. As for Bush freeing him, well lets just say not a chance in hell, GW ain't that dumb .
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Old 04-13-2006, 07:52 PM
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So no concern for the precedent this sets? You're OK with being put to death for having evil thoughts?
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