http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1765325,00.html

Sick.

Golly, for a second there I thought you meant that raping 11 year-olds was official Iraeli military policy. Glad their justice system is looking into it. Aren't you?

Yes. I just wanted to point out that they aren't the "Moral Military" they claim to be.

11 soldiers represent the entire military? Do Islamic extremists represent all of Islam?

They do if you ask most Americans and Fox News.

In The USA Media:

Israel = Good
Islam = Bad

Sad but true.

Yes, unfortunately generalizations seem to perpetuate divisions between people and help to fuel wars. I know people who are very tolerant of others on a personal level and yet quick to disparage other ethnic, religious, and racial groups when talking in generalities. Cognitive disonance is what that is called, I believe.

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Well, when most of our troubles are from islamic people and the people that support these troublesome people, what do you expect others to think? If muslims feel they are getting a raw deal, maybe they should make their stand clear that they don't support so and so instead of having their governments say this, that or the other whilst slipping funds to these same groups.

BTW, ever thought of being a journalist? You seem to have a flare for it. When I first read your post, it sounded like a gang bang on a 11 yo till I read the story. The devil is in the details. First, there were also 5 civillians involved. Secondly, it was statutory rape not just simple rape. I know, you took part of the title "Israeli soldiers accused of raping 11-year-old" and shortened it. Also you forgot to mention the other part which was that she lied about her age for sex so it was not like the soldiers did a "catholic priest" on them. Fourthly, you forgot to mention that there was bad parenting on the parent's part. So, all in all, are you a journalist or do you have aspirations to be one? You'll go far.

According to reports in the Israeli media, the girl - whose father is a non-commissioned officer in the army - was living with her family at an air base in the south of Israel. She began to have sex with soldiers and workers at the base from the age of 11 until the age of 14.

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I have a good idea -- let's blame an entire country for the actions of a few low-lifes!

A) You're racist. (See the first part of your reply.)
B) Go have sex with an 11 year old and tell the Judge that she told you she was 18 and it's ok.

Not my intent. Only to show that Israel is not as Perfect as the media tries to make them out to be. They have their animals just like the Palestinians. Only we support the side with animals that own our media and have high-ranking government jobs.

Those are the facts.

Man, you've got some kind of boner going for Israel.

Who claims that the Israelii Army is perfect?

Grow up.

Not FOR Israel. Just HOW we SUPPORT of Israel.

The article even goes into how Israel comes across as being Morally superior, etc.

Then the proper thread title (one that's free from bigotry) should read Israeli Soldiers Rape 11 Year Old Girl...

Israel isn't the country that shouts out to the world they that are their world compass of morality -- we are.

What of it? Tell me what I said isn't true. Tell me that what the government says is one thing but they allow funds to slip out and support these groups. If you give them support, what am to think of you? If you aid the terrorist either financially, logistically, morally, etc, etc, and they blow up a bus of people, are you saying that your hands are clean? So if I finance a fast car and guns and masks for a bank job but don't show up in the robbery, it's ok? I fear the support structore more than the guy with the bomb vest or AK-47.

I never said it was ok or did I? I am just saying that when you say a girl was raped "Isreali Army rape 11 yo girl" , it gives the image of a bunch of people ganging up and raping her. I am saying that it was a different situation not that it is ok.

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As long as it is in our interest, why not? (You do recall that Hussien was trying to involve them by lobbing missiles at them in the first Gulf War and we told them not to get involved) When they cease to be in some way answerable to us, let the arabs have them all and run them into the sea for all I care.

The people think their army is morally superior. Everyone thinks they are. So did Hitler, Pol Pot, maybe even Adi Amin. Just a way to make people sleep better than to tell them that we are doing this because we want something out of it. IIRC, the poor Germans needed "living space" too. Not that they wanted to dominate the world. People are basically bad. They just need something to say how morally superior they are

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