Wow. I don't think I've ever known anyone with that opinion...

A good friend of mine owns an excellent independent coffee shop in Atlanta, which I frequent. He is a HARDCORE coffee critic... Imports his own beans, roasts them himself in the basement of one of his two locations... A real, hard-to-please connoisseur.

I recall a conversation with him during which someone mentioned Starbucks. When asked for his thoughts, he said, and I quote: "Well.... It's decent for mass-market coffee, I guess... Beats going to Dunkin Donuts!"

I always drink black coffee too, or espresso drinks such as a latte or cappucino.

Even the worst Starbucks coffee that I have had, I would rate it "acceptable". I can't even drink McDonald's coffee, or that from any other fast-food places, Dunkin Donuts, etc... It is bland, flavorless, not fresh, often bitter... much like everything else they serve.

The strong, bold flavor (which is precisely what makes a good coffee good) of most Starbucks coffees is exactly what appeals to me about it.

Actually, I have heard one other person say they can't stand Starbucks:

My father. He hates Starbucks. He loves FOLGERS Instant Coffee. :eek: :pukeface: It's what he has drank all his life.

I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

Mike

What the heck has this to do with the'price of tea in China? Or radical Musio;lim Arse holes?

Absolutely nothing.

It's called a "tangent".... Someone's comment about Tim Horton's coffee shops sent me off on one. ;)

Mike

Miss on you too, Pister, you and your whole family can go and **** a Buffalo.

I had the choice of living with my Kith in in New York State ( NY C., Long Island ) but I preferred the my choice of coming alone to Canada.

Except for your Vietnam Draft Dodgers ( And I don't fault hem, either, it was then a beutifull and peace loving couintry ( Ontario, that is.} until Mr. Pierre Trudeau, the A. H., open the borders to the **** of the woprld - not all of them, by the way But, No Muslims back then, but they came later, regretfully, (again not all of them ) - but, collectively, they do seem try to implant their alien culture on us in our public and deparate schools.

The Christian Western World need another Crusade to, at least subdue them, now that they have attacked you and us., but not the Bush's policy of invading a sovereign country, just for OIL!

That's the way I see it, anyway!

No, don't even smoke has or snort cocaine - Just remeber the recent history of your country _ You propped the Shah of Iran, you meddled in the affairs of Saudia Arabia, the Irag - WHY? Because o OIL!!!

Now we. the world, are paying the price of the Bush's insursions - what the price now of an American gallon- it's Can$4,50 here. Thanks, Yankee! from the Western peace loving world - When will you learn, that you can't bomb people into submission - obviously you didn't learn from Vietnam - did youse?"

What Oil are you speaking about? Oil would have been a great reason to invade, definitely a needed national security objective worthy of such a devious aggressive act. But we certainly we haven't seen a drop for our efforts, yet.

The oil Americans imported from Irag, and still do from Saudia Arabia. I recall reading somewhere, that your EPA said " if all Americans driving small trucks, SUV's etc, had bought diesel engines, America would not need to imort raw oil from the Saudis ( paraphrased ).

America, what are the latest Stats.? (again, paraphrased,) America, so-cdalled, has X % of the worlds population, but uses 99% of its resources - something like that.

When are you going to learn that natural resources, such as oil are not renewable? But it seems that you can afford to spend unknown billons trillions of dollars exploring outer space. In the name of what? Defense, the Astromoters, the Defense industry?

Please explain to me and others, won't you, whilst the rest of the world pay dearly for your wasteful transgressions. THINK ABOUT IT OVER WHATEVER COFFEE YOU PREFER - and that point is the cause supreme of the diminishing rain forests of South America - that Boston tea party has cost us all dearly :eek: :eek: :eek: .

You obviously have absolutely NO idea of what you're saying. Your comments are clearly based on preconceived ideas. The fact that the US/Canada has been responsible for the majority of all modern technical inventions and medical advancement, and then being gracious enough to teach that knowledge to anyone (from any country) willing to learn, obviously means nothing to you.
What country are you from originally? It's nice to be able to stand on the side where the green grass grows and bite the very hand that feeds you. If you were less emotional about your response you would see that it's the rest of the world's governments (i.e, the non-Western world) that limit their citizens growth by exploiting their resources and labour force for their own advantage. Remind me please, why did you move to Canada? :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Padraig]Well, the analogy is clear to me :Canada , since I've here since 1954, and a citizen to-booth, is a suck!.QUOTE]

BTW, this is a perfect example of Canada's failure to create a sense of nationalism... someone that arrived in Canada more than 50 years ago (according to a previous post), yet is so immersed in his own culture that he can't successfully write a sentence in the english language... no offense.

Not sure what your world is like but here is what I hav been saying. Lets put a hypothetical situation. If I found an oil source in Texas and it is enough to supply USA for 100 years, can we say that if the world runs out of oil it is still ok for us? Remember, if the world runs out of oil, we will eventually tank too. Stock market crashes in europe and we will feel it too. So, to your theory of if we got rid of every SUV and truck it would solve the problems, keep dreaming.

I think that is a lousy comparison. Firstly, I don't believe the 99% number. However, that would be comparing apples with oranges, won't it? If you have an ag based country, they probably won't "consume" the resources directly. Indirectly yes. Does that take it into account?

Yes, lets just stay in our little corner of the solar system. :rolleyes: Never heard of spinoffs?

Yep, if we nuked the USA, the rest of the world would be hunky dory again. Sure, pass the pipe. Europe, Asia and all that have no part in the problem. Of course not. Why don't we eliminate India and China and that will free up a bunch of resources too? :rolleyes:

Hahaha.... :D

Now, you don't really want him to let facts get in the way of a perfectly good hissy-fit, do you?... ;)

Mike

"It's all about the oil." :rolleyes: That's the oldest, lamest mantra that has been posted here in a while, and I thought everyone had finally gotten over it.... but just for fun, let's go with it....

Fine.

Oil + U.S. = bad.

Then perhaps you should teach by example.

Stop driving your Mercedes and start walking.

Let us know how that works out for you.

Mike

I think you got it wrong. US = Bad because (insert any reason or none)

Mike,

I'd politely like to refute that statement - Canada indeed has a strong sense of nationalism. Where you find it is in the smaller towns and cities across the country. In the Canadian families that have been here for generations.

It's a quiet pride - we don't flaunt it, we're sometimes maybe a bit too lax about it, but it's there and it is strong.

In the larger cities - Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, even Ottawa - where you have a large number of new immigrants of all races arriving in a short time span, you are bound to get a disconnect and some clustering of ethnic types. It creates an isolationist image but the reality is that most are quite happy to be here. There are the bad apples - the gangs, the corruption, but that's par for the course for any large international city.

What if it was all about the oil. He's an oil man with a tradition in oil, surrounded by good old oil men. Does anyone think these guy's are hurting? Best thing that could ever have happened for them. Ok, I know that's BS, but they couldn't have planned it better.

Jorg