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MedMech 06-06-2006 06:59 AM

Terrorist in Canada,,,,,,,but why?
 
Good job Canada and the lead came from internet monitoring:spidereek ,
so I guess the Lawn Jockeys and Garden Gnomes are looking for new work.


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060605/D8I2B1TO0.html

Botnst 06-06-2006 07:52 AM

Why would they want to bomb Canada, a country that has loudly opposed the US approach to Islamic militants?

azimuth 06-06-2006 09:29 AM

Don't they know if we leave terrorists alone and do as they demand, they will leave us alone?

Zeus 06-06-2006 09:40 AM

Yeah, it was all over the paper this morning/yesterday.

I was also somewhat surprised to see an article in one of our papers that called the whole issue one of the country's biggest white elephants - the fact that all 17 suspects are muslims and this fact should be plainly stated by the police/politicians. The police didn't say as much in their statements, being uber-politically correct, but I'm surprised and somewhat pleased that the paper ran the article, essentially saying let's call it like it is - all 17 suspects were muslim radicals.

Not sure why they'd want to bomb us? Maybe they want control of the Tim Horton's franchise? :D

Mike552 06-06-2006 10:06 AM

Canada is full of Muslim extremists... especially Toronto. The problem with Canada is the country doesn't have a strong sense of nationalism, allowing for new immigrants to comfortably keep their views and values.

coldwar 06-06-2006 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike552
Canada is full of Muslim extremists... especially Toronto. The problem with Canada is the country doesn't have a strong sense of nationalism, allowing for new immigrants to comfortably keep their views and values.

Hopefully that will change, provided our new government survives its first term, and picks up some steam for its next. Meanwhile, it would appear that the RCMP and CSIS are on their toes, at least for this big home run they were.

jlomon 06-06-2006 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst
Why would they want to bomb Canada, a country that has loudly opposed the US approach to Islamic militants?

Actually, that isn't completely true. We're currently fighting (and dying) in the war against Islamic militants in Afghanistan. We have over 2000 troops on the ground at Kandahar, which is more or less the equivalent of the Wild West in Afghanistan. Kabul, by contrast, is "relatively" under control. We're not here peacekeeping, we're hunting down and killing militants and insurgents. We're involved here because there was a direct connection to the militants responsible for 9/11. We've been there since day one, and we've committed militarily for the next two years at least.

Our government hasn't bought into everything, and I'm not even going to begin debating the war in Iraq or any of the other controversial issues. Everyone is entrenched in their positions and I don't think meaningful debate is even possible any more, regardless of what side of the issue you fall on. But I do have some difficulty reading that we're loudly opposed to the war on Islamic militancy when our servicemen and women are coming home in flag-draped coffins at the hands of the same militants. But this is the answer to "why Canada?" Its because we're involved.

MedMech 06-06-2006 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by coldwar
Meanwhile, it would appear that the RCMP and CSIS are on their toes, at least for this big home run they were.

yep

Zeitgeist 06-06-2006 11:34 AM

Can't argue with success
 
Lawn Jockeys and Garden Gnomes have done their jobs rather handily, I would say. I'm planning to place them strategically around the perimeter our fortified compound.

Botnst 06-06-2006 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jlomon
Actually, that isn't completely true. We're currently fighting (and dying) in the war against Islamic militants in Afghanistan. We have over 2000 troops on the ground at Kandahar, which is more or less the equivalent of the Wild West in Afghanistan. Kabul, by contrast, is "relatively" under control. We're not here peacekeeping, we're hunting down and killing militants and insurgents. We're involved here because there was a direct connection to the militants responsible for 9/11. We've been there since day one, and we've committed militarily for the next two years at least.

Our government hasn't bought into everything, and I'm not even going to begin debating the war in Iraq or any of the other controversial issues. Everyone is entrenched in their positions and I don't think meaningful debate is even possible any more, regardless of what side of the issue you fall on. But I do have some difficulty reading that we're loudly opposed to the war on Islamic militancy when our servicemen and women are coming home in flag-draped coffins at the hands of the same militants. But this is the answer to "why Canada?" Its because we're involved.

I stand corrected.

Jim H 06-06-2006 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst
Why would they want to bomb Canada...

Because Canadians are also Infidels, eh?

Jim Anderson 06-06-2006 01:12 PM

Infidel hosers, eh.

89-300ce 06-06-2006 03:46 PM

If he was preaching hatred towards Canada, why the f**k didn't he just leave? I grew up in Germany, didn't like the place so I left. I didn't try to bomb the country into submission. People like this just p*ss me off. Sorry for the rant.

Jorg

mzsmbs 06-06-2006 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf-n-Turf
What was Spain's involvement when their train stations were bombed? Terrorists invoke fear. Their only chance to be succesful is to scare enough people to change policies. In Spain's case, it basically worked. Don,t let it happen to our good neighbors to the North.


it worked on US too, we've changed quite a bit...






boo!

crx 06-06-2006 09:28 PM

I liked how one of the fathers of a terrorist tried to blame it on the government saying that the government is just making this all up to get people against Islam (or something of that nature).

One of the terrorists was winking at his family today in court and his family started to wave back to him - ****ing scum, they don't deserve to live here.

Now watch and see the hate crimes against visible minorities (not just Muslims, but also Hindu's, Sikhs, etc) will rise due to ignorance by the general public.

If they don't like Canada then pack up your ****ing **** and get the **** out. I heard life in Pakistan is far better than here anyways :wacko: They even allow you to burn down KFC restaurants and Ronald McDonald :D

Hatterasguy 06-06-2006 10:57 PM

But why? Attacking Canada makes no sense, what would they gain? Maybe these guys were a rogue element?

MedMech 06-06-2006 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
But why? Attacking Canada makes no sense, what would they gain? Maybe these guys were a rogue element?

Rule #1 kill the infidel wherever they are.

peragro 06-06-2006 11:08 PM

I was listening to the story on NPR this morning. They also couldn't quite wrap their minds around why muslim radicals would attack Canada either. It made me laugh, the answer has been obvious for over 20 years at least.

aklim 06-06-2006 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by peragro
I was listening to the story on NPR this morning. They also couldn't quite wrap their minds around why muslim radicals would attack Canada either. It made me laugh, the answer has been obvious for over 20 years at least.

You mean besides the fact they belong to the same religion where the heads of their belief tell them that they should?

Hatterasguy 06-06-2006 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MedMech
Rule #1 kill the infidel wherever they are.


Hmm this just goes to show certain elements in our society that think we are not at war, that we are.

mikemover 06-07-2006 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
But why? Attacking Canada makes no sense, what would they gain? Maybe these guys were a rogue element?


Why?

Because Canada is not yet an ultra-fundamentalist Muslim Theocracy, and that is the ultimate goal of the Muslim extremists.

They will continue to attack the US, Canada, Spain, Australia, England... ANY country that is not part of their Islamic Utopia.

They will do so until we all either submit, or until we kill them all.

I prefer the "kill them all" option.

Mike

Honus 06-07-2006 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
Hmm this just goes to show certain elements in our society that think we are not at war, that we are.

That's true. Maybe even W will figure it out now. It's too bad he couldn't figure it out before running off into Iraq.

OMEGAMAN 06-07-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulC
Is they're anything in Canada worth bombing? I can't see how blowing up a few fishing shacks would have caused much of a furor.

Sure, Toque factories and all the Molson breweries

Zeus 06-07-2006 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulC
Is they're anything in Canada worth bombing? I can't see how blowing up a few fishing shacks would have caused much of a furor.

There's that nice new American embassy in downtown Ottawa...

;)

Mike552 06-07-2006 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by crx
Now watch and see the hate crimes against visible minorities (not just Muslims, but also Hindu's, Sikhs, etc) will rise due to ignorance by the general public.

How true, my heart really and truly goes out to Indian people... they've had to unwillingly put up with all forms of discrimination due to the public confusing them as Muslims. The majority of Indians are very educated, and their culture is very accepting and warm. The only one exception is the Sikhs maybe, because they have a history as being warriors... but they are also nice people and in no way extremists in any way. It's too bad that Indians have to put up with it... BTW... I don't consider Pakistanis as being "Indians".... there's a fine difference there for sure. I hope that Pakistan will one day change into a country similar to Turkey; Turkey is predominantly Muslim but they are very accepting of other cultures and have excellent relations with other countries including the US and Israel. As for Canada, I hope it will survive as a great example of what peace can be like with a mixture of all types of cultures and religions. It amazes me how people from different countries come to Canada and become good friends and neighbors. All in search of the same Canadian dream I guess. Truly remarkable. On the most part, Canada truly is the UN personafied.

Jim B. 06-07-2006 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemover
Why?

Because Canada is not yet an ultra-fundamentalist Muslim Theocracy, and that is the ultimate goal of the Muslim extremists.

They will continue to attack the US, Canada, Spain, Australia, England... ANY country that is not part of their Islamic Utopia.

They will do so until we all either submit, or until we kill them all.

I prefer the "kill them all" option.

Mike

ISLAMIC UTOPIA??? Shome mishtake shurely...

Look at Baghdad and the Palestine, the various factions and sects are killing one another, that can't even agree among themselves what the religion should be, someone said here it seems like it is a perverse medieval religion that should have died 1000 years ago but somehow survived

There was an interview with a man selling ice on the street in Baghdad, which would seem like an eminently sensible and clever thing to do, to earn money for his family, but who may have to desist, after receiving death threats from militants saying this was "un-Islamic"

Take away all their guns, IEDs, and bombs, please!!

mikemover 06-07-2006 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike552
On the most part, Canada truly is the UN personafied.

:eek:

I certainly hope not! If I were Canadian, I would probably consider that comment an insult!

The UN is an ineffectual, corrupt, indecisive, whining, wasteful, hypocritical, tyrant-supporting, money-grubbing, money-wasting, and largely useless organization. Kind of like our own US Congress, except 1,000 times worse.

Most Canadians are FAR smarter than that.

Mike

Padraig 06-07-2006 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus
Yeah, it was all over the paper this morning/yesterday.

I was also somewhat surprised to see an article in one of our papers that called the whole issue one of the country's biggest white elephants - the fact that all 17 suspects are muslims and this fact should be plainly stated by the police/politicians. The police didn't say as much in their statements, being uber-politically correct, but I'm surprised and somewhat pleased that the paper ran the article, essentially saying let's call it like it is - all 17 suspects were muslim radicals.

Not sure why they'd want to bomb us? Maybe they want control of the Tim Horton's franchise? :D


The levity is good, Zeus, but for the benefit our American neighbours, the simple fact of the matter seems to be that we [Canada] have become a training ground for these Muslim extremists, and by planning to terroise us, are probably just sending another warning to the US goverment - their principal target.

Our Canadian troops - 2000 of them - fulfilled their two year commitment to NATO, but our stupid Prime Minister Harper's ( George W's. buddy!) majority Conserative parliament recently rammed in another two year extension for NATO in Kandahar.

There isn't a nation in the world, which after a reasonable occupation by foreign troops that would not rebel against them - my native country Ireland, is a prime example of what I'm referring to, even 84 years after we lost six of our counties in the 1922 partition that created what is called Northern Ireland, and after 800 years of British domination.:flamethro

That's the way I see it, anyway.

mikemover 06-07-2006 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf-n-Turf
Are you stoned? This is exactly why we are in Iraq. This should be a wake up call to all you W bashers. We are fighting a war that needed to be started a long time before GW came to power. It's not a fight against Islam, but a fight against a radical bunch of a holes who can't get along with anybody. Hell, they are killing their own race and religion to push their agenda.

WAKE UP AMERICA

Whoa, calm down bro...

You might pull a muscle.

;)

Mike

mikemover 06-07-2006 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

Not sure why they'd want to bomb us? Maybe they want control of the Tim Horton's franchise? :D


Hahaha....

Tim Horton's is alright... but I prefer Starbucks. ;)

Mike

Honus 06-07-2006 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf-n-Turf
...This is exactly why we are in Iraq...

:rolleyes:

Botnst 06-07-2006 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Padraig
There isn't a nation in the world, which after a reasonable occupation by foreign troops that would not rebel against them - my native country Ireland, is a prime example of what I'm referring to, even 84 years after we lost six of our counties in the 1922 partition that created what is called Northern Ireland, and after 800 years of British domination.:flamethro

That's the way I see it, anyway.

84 years, hell. It's been at least since Elizabeth I appointed that nitwit as governor. Of course, the Irish could've defeated the English back then if they hadn't betrayed each other all over their island.

Not sure what that has to do with Canada, really.

Zeus 06-07-2006 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemover
Hahaha....

Tim Horton's is alright... but I prefer Starbucks. ;)

Mike

Hehe, me too. Vitamin T is the poison of choice when we're touring (especially when you're driving the van at 3 a.m. through freezing rain and the drummer is blasting another prog rock CD, must be a drummer thing? :rolleyes: ), but for enjoyment, I sure do prefer Starbucks (clique image and trendiness aside).

As to the Canada/muslim/terrorist thing, I'd glad we nailed the idiots, and hope our guard stays up while at the same time, I hope we don't lose any of the freedoms we hold dear (and which our forefathers fought and died for).

89-300ce 06-07-2006 02:40 PM

Starbucks is getting their ass handed to them by Tim Hortons on our campus. Having sampled both I prefer Tim's. Maybe they have different coffee's in different regions? How is Starbucks doing in other regions?

Jorg

Flash Gordon 06-07-2006 03:10 PM

This is a good example of teachings in the mosques in Canada......jihad. Hell, these guys were born in Canada! I would suggest to Canada to send these radicals to our Guantonomo base for rehab!

Mike552 06-07-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemover
Hahaha....

Tim Horton's is alright... but I prefer Starbucks. ;)

Mike

Are you on crack? Oh, wait a minute, crack is the stuff they put in the Tim Horton's up there... that's why I like it so much! Nevermind.... :silly:

mikemover 06-07-2006 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 89-300ce
Starbucks is getting their ass handed to them by Tim Hortons on our campus. Having sampled both I prefer Tim's. Maybe they have different coffee's in different regions? How is Starbucks doing in other regions?

Jorg

They are HUGE. One on every other street corner of most major cities in the US. I often see 2 or 3 locations within line-of-sight of each other. They are becoming the "McDonald's" of coffee (but with a much better product). :)

Mike

Honus 06-07-2006 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemover
...They are becoming the "McDonald's" of coffee (but with a much better product)....

I've got to disagree with you there. McDonalds coffee is much better than Starbucks, IMHO. I think McDonalds coffee might vary from one region to another. I was in Boston a while back and all the McDonalds had signs saying that they now serve Green Mountain coffee (which is also better than Starbucks). Meanwhile, in Northern Virginia, the McDonalds started serving a new brand of coffee, but they didn't advertise it as Green Mountain.

Starbucks coffee is much too strong and bitter for my taste. If I liked cream and/or sugar in my coffee, maybe I would feel differently.

Jim B. 06-07-2006 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike552
How true, my heart really and truly goes out to Indian people... they've had to unwillingly put up with all forms of discrimination due to the public confusing them as Muslims. The majority of Indians are very educated, and their culture is very accepting and warm. The only one exception is the Sikhs maybe, because they have a history as being warriors... but they are also nice people and in no way extremists in any way. It's too bad that Indians have to put up with it... BTW... I don't consider Pakistanis as being "Indians".... there's a fine difference there for sure. I hope that Pakistan will one day change into a country similar to Turkey; Turkey is predominantly Muslim but they are very accepting of other cultures and have excellent relations with other countries including the US and Israel.

Turkey, secular though it is compared to other Muslim nations, has nothing to be proud of concerning its relations with Greece, and the Kurds within their own borders.

mikemover 06-07-2006 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dculkin
I've got to disagree with you there. McDonalds coffee is much better than Starbucks, IMHO. I think McDonalds coffee might vary from one region to another. I was in Boston a while back and all the McDonalds had signs saying that they now serve Green Mountain coffee (which is also better than Starbucks). Meanwhile, in Northern Virginia, the McDonalds started serving a new brand of coffee, but they didn't advertise it as Green Mountain.

Starbucks coffee is much too strong and bitter for my taste. If I liked cream and/or sugar in my coffee, maybe I would feel differently.

You are insane. There is no comparison.

Starbucks definitely does not serve the absolute best coffee on the planet, but they are LEAGUES ahead of the weak dirt-water that McDonald's serves.

Mike

mikemover 06-07-2006 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.
Turkey, secular though it is compared to other Muslim nations, has nothing to be proud of concerning its relations with Greece, and the Kurds within their own borders.

Very true. Their record is far from spotless...

But they have definitely a strong lead on their extremist, idiot neighbors.

Mike

Honus 06-07-2006 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemover
You are insane. There is no comparison.

Starbucks definitely does not serve the absolute best coffee on the planet, but they are LEAGUES ahead of the weak dirt-water that McDonald's serves.

Mike

Somebody brought some Starbucks coffee into the office and made it in our regular drip coffee maker. Now, our town water is fairly nasty, so it was not a fair trial, but that might have been the worst coffee I have ever tasted. I've also tried coffee made at Starbucks stores. I find it almost undrinkable. On the other hand, I will go out of my way to find a McDonalds when I want a cup of take-out coffee.

Hatterasguy 06-07-2006 06:28 PM

Starbucks is doing very well in my area, everyone goes to Starbucks.

I dislike coffee, but I don't see the attraction. Their other stuff is expensive and pretty lame.

peragro 06-07-2006 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dculkin
Somebody brought some Starbucks coffee into the office and made it in our regular drip coffee maker. Now, our town water is fairly nasty, so it was not a fair trial, but that might have been the worst coffee I have ever tasted. I've also tried coffee made at Starbucks stores. I find it almost undrinkable. On the other hand, I will go out of my way to find a McDonalds when I want a cup of take-out coffee.

Gotta agree here. I drink regular black coffee. Starbucks is very nasty in that flavor. I try to avoid them everywhere. Not to mention that they are way overpriced for what they offer.

Padraig 06-07-2006 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst
84 years, hell. It's been at least since Elizabeth I appointed that nitwit as governor. Of course, the Irish could've defeated the English back then if they hadn't betrayed each other all over their island.

Not sure what that has to do with Canada, really.


Well, the anology is clear to me :Canada , since I've here since 1954, and a citizen to-booth, is a suck!. Our Immigration laws and Refugee regulations have created a haven for many good people, but also for those ****-pot Muslim Radicals who are bent on destroying our society.

mikemover 06-07-2006 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dculkin
Somebody brought some Starbucks coffee into the office and made it in our regular drip coffee maker. Now, our town water is fairly nasty, so it was not a fair trial, but that might have been the worst coffee I have ever tasted. I've also tried coffee made at Starbucks stores. I find it almost undrinkable. On the other hand, I will go out of my way to find a McDonalds when I want a cup of take-out coffee.


Wow. I don't think I've ever known anyone with that opinion...

A good friend of mine owns an excellent independent coffee shop in Atlanta, which I frequent. He is a HARDCORE coffee critic... Imports his own beans, roasts them himself in the basement of one of his two locations... A real, hard-to-please connoisseur.

I recall a conversation with him during which someone mentioned Starbucks. When asked for his thoughts, he said, and I quote: "Well.... It's decent for mass-market coffee, I guess... Beats going to Dunkin Donuts!"

I always drink black coffee too, or espresso drinks such as a latte or cappucino.

Even the worst Starbucks coffee that I have had, I would rate it "acceptable". I can't even drink McDonald's coffee, or that from any other fast-food places, Dunkin Donuts, etc... It is bland, flavorless, not fresh, often bitter... much like everything else they serve.

The strong, bold flavor (which is precisely what makes a good coffee good) of most Starbucks coffees is exactly what appeals to me about it.

Actually, I have heard one other person say they can't stand Starbucks:

My father. He hates Starbucks. He loves FOLGERS Instant Coffee. :eek: :pukeface: It's what he has drank all his life.

I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

Mike

Padraig 06-07-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemover
They are HUGE. One on every other street corner of most major cities in the US. I often see 2 or 3 locations within line-of-sight of each other. They are becoming the "McDonald's" of coffee (but with a much better product). :)

Mike

What the heck has this to do with the'price of tea in China? Or radical Musio;lim Arse holes?

mikemover 06-07-2006 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Padraig
What the heck has this to do with the'price of tea in China? Or radical Musio;lim Arse holes?

Absolutely nothing.

It's called a "tangent".... Someone's comment about Tim Horton's coffee shops sent me off on one. ;)

Mike

Padraig 06-07-2006 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulC
Is they're anything in Canada worth bombing? I can't see how blowing up a few fishing shacks would have caused much of a furor.

Miss on you too, Pister, you and your whole family can go and **** a Buffalo.

I had the choice of living with my Kith in in New York State ( NY C., Long Island ) but I preferred the my choice of coming alone to Canada.

Except for your Vietnam Draft Dodgers ( And I don't fault hem, either, it was then a beutifull and peace loving couintry ( Ontario, that is.} until Mr. Pierre Trudeau, the A. H., open the borders to the **** of the woprld - not all of them, by the way But, No Muslims back then, but they came later, regretfully, (again not all of them ) - but, collectively, they do seem try to implant their alien culture on us in our public and deparate schools.

The Christian Western World need another Crusade to, at least subdue them, now that they have attacked you and us., but not the Bush's policy of invading a sovereign country, just for OIL!

That's the way I see it, anyway!

Padraig 06-07-2006 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf-n-Turf
Are you stoned? This is exactly why we are in Iraq. This should be a wake up call to all you W bashers. We are fighting a war that needed to be started a long time before GW came to power. It's not a fight against Islam, but a fight against a radical bunch of a holes who can't get along with anybody. Hell, they are killing their own race and religion to push their agenda.

WAKE UP AMERICA


No, don't even smoke has or snort cocaine - Just remeber the recent history of your country _ You propped the Shah of Iran, you meddled in the affairs of Saudia Arabia, the Irag - WHY? Because o OIL!!!

Now we. the world, are paying the price of the Bush's insursions - what the price now of an American gallon- it's Can$4,50 here. Thanks, Yankee! from the Western peace loving world - When will you learn, that you can't bomb people into submission - obviously you didn't learn from Vietnam - did youse?"


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