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Honus · #46 06-19-2006, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by John Holmes III

...Here are some facts, a direct quote from a great president...

Do those really look like facts to you? One of us needs to get his eyes checked, because I don't see many facts in that script that someone handed to W.

As for his being a great president, only time will tell. If on this date in the year 2026 W is not regarded as an unambiguous failure, then I will know that everything I ever knew was wrong.

Botnst · #47 06-19-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dculkin

Do those really look like facts to you? One of us needs to get his eyes checked, because I don't see many facts in that script that someone handed to W.

As for his being a great president, only time will tell. If on this date in the year 2026 W is not regarded as an unambiguous failure, then I will know that everything I ever knew was wrong.

Dogmatic statements haunt.

BENZ-LGB · #48 06-20-2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

The voters I knew back then that were total bigots held their noses and supported Wallace. They thought we should have a race war and exterminate black people. They wanted a race war. Wallace was their 2nd choice. Without Wallace they just didn't vote. The result in 1972 looked like a vote for Nixon but that is a simple-minded explanation. In fact, many of the Wallace type folks simply did not vote. The result was that the (white) Democrat South, which had been reliable Democrat voters for nearly 100 years, stayed home. This has been popularly mythologized as a vote for Nixon.

In truth, the southern bigot vote hated Nixon even more than they hated a liberal Democrat. They had hated Republicans since Lincoln. Republicans perpetrated legal theft under the euphemism of "reconstruction" which retarded southern economic development for 80 years. Many southern Republicans (older white ones) still feel that way. They view Republicans as NE yankee wealth engineering the rape of the south for personal economic gain. The Democrats have accidentally sacrificed that generational resentment in their bid for a broader base.

Remember that they voted for Jimmy Carter the first time, rather than Gerald Ford. It was not simply because Carter was from the south. It was because he was a Democrat (first) and not a damned yankee fatcat politician. It wasn't until Ronald Reagan ran for election that the southern conservatives and bigots could bring themselves to vote for a Republican. And it was NOT because Reagan was a bigot. Reagan never directly pandered for the bigot vote.

Bot

Bot, to accept the above would require a certain amount of historical knowledge. Something that many people, here or elsewhere, are not willing to do -- read up on history.

BENZ-LGB · #49 06-20-2006, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Dogmatic statements haunt.

Classic.

The perils of intemperate youth.

Botnst · #50 01-30-2008, 10:06 AM

'If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.' Mark Twain

Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. -Mark Twain

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. -Winston Churchill

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. - George Bernard Shaw

A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. -G Gordon Liddy

Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. -James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)

Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. -Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University

Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. -P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian

Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. -Frederic Bastiat, French Economist (1801-1850)

Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. -Ronald Reagan (1986)

I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. -Will Rogers

If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -P.J. O'Rourke

In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. -Voltaire (1764)

Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -Pericles (430 B.C.)

No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -Mark Twain (1866 )

Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it. -Unknown

The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other. -Ronald Reagan

The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin. -Mark Twain

The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)

There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress. -Mark Twain

What this country needs are more unemployed politicians. -Edward Langley, Artist (1928 - 1995)

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -Thomas Jefferson

Mistress · #51 01-30-2008, 12:21 PM

"I'm so busy I don't know whether to wind my butt or scratch my watch." Dolly Parton.

Hatterasguy · #52 01-30-2008, 09:19 PM

Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war that we know about peace, more about killing that we know about living.
Omar N. Bradley

We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
Winston Churchill

The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.
Adolf Hitler

What a cruel thing is war: to separate and destroy families and friends, and mar the purest joys and happiness God has granted us in this world; to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbors, and to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world.
Robert E. Lee

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
George S. Patton

The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic.
Joseph Stalin

Don't punch them in the face, boot them in the a**.
Lose translation on Panzer tactics
Heinz Guderian

If the tanks succeed, then victory follows.
Heinz Guderian

It is decisive to completely destroy Warsaw.
Heinz Guderian

It is sometimes tougher to fight my superiors than the French.
Heinz Guderian

Logistics is the ball and chain of armored warfare.
Heinz Guderian

No plan of battle ever survives contact with the enemy.
Heinz Guderian

The engine of the Panzer is a weapon just as the main-gun.
Heinz Guderian

There are no desperate situations, there are only desperate people.
Heinz Guderian

Whenever in future wars the battle is fought, armored troops will play the decisive role.
Heinz Guderian

You hit somebody with your fist and not with your fingers spread.
Heinz Guderian

Botnst · #53 01-30-2008, 09:21 PM

The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.
Adolf Hitler

Only in his world. In ours, everything is questioned and often.

Hatterasguy · #54 01-30-2008, 09:23 PM

For my part, I consider that it will be found much better by all parties to leave the past to history, especially as I propose to write that history myself.
Winston Churchill

History is written by the victors.
Winston Churchill

History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.
Winston Churchill

I disagree, the victor gets to edit history as they see fit. Who questioned the US government about lend lease after the war?

The Soviet Union about its rather long list of genicide?

t walgamuth · #55 01-30-2008, 11:57 PM

Interesting. Here we have an orgy of quoting.

ON another thread we have a person blasting folks who quote saying it is ...lets see....stupid?

Quotes are always good to hear if they are good ones.

Am I the only one who thinks maybe Hattie is a little too enfatuated with the Nazis?

Tom W

Hatterasguy · #56 01-31-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Am I the only one who thinks maybe Hattie is a little too enfatuated with the Nazis?

Tom W

What does the German army and panzer tactics have to do with the Nazi party?

Dee8go · #57 01-31-2008, 12:47 PM

Yeah, they were just following orders . . . .

Dee8go · #58 03-21-2008, 01:31 PM

Somebody sent me this today:

In a recent interview, General Norman Schwarzkopf was asked if he thought there was room for forgiveness toward the people who have harbored and abetted the terrorists who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks on America. His answer was classic Schwarzkopf.

The General said: "I believe that forgiving them is God's function.
OUR job is to arrange the meeting.”