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Old 06-25-2006, 12:15 AM
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I googled the seller's name palmbeachexotics. There is a web site with that name. My internet security settings won't go there. ???
If one goes to palmbeachexotics.com, it's just a flash intro. If one chooses to skip the intro, it takes one to their home page: http://www.palmbeachexotics.com/index2.html.

Do your security settings let you see that?

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Old 06-25-2006, 12:25 AM
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Thanks, I can see that. Doesn't say much about them though, does it?
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Old 06-25-2006, 02:03 AM
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I don't know of a technical reason that they can't all be fake. However, to think that such is the case seems, to me at least, to be unnecessarily complicating things.

Look at the top two bidders. Then look at their feedback pages. From there, look at those auctions (the ones they've won) that are still accessible in the eBay system.

Using the "Items by Bidder" option in the eBay advanced search, look at the recent auctions in which those bidders participated.

Just how much work would it be to generate such detailed "legends" for two such "fake" bidders? And the motive for doing so would be...?
That's the tack I've taken a few times. The only way all or most of them could be shills when they have decent feedback ratings, is if a circle of eBay sharks bought stuff legitimately when they saw something they wanted -- just nursed their rating to a decent position so that they could shill now and then w/o arousing suspicion. This is a fairly paranoid/conspiracy view of things, I'll admit.

Once I bid on a Makita 12 V impact driver. I was the first bid -- $90 was the opening price, then I noticed there were no other bidders for a few days. I then realized that I had neglected to check sellers feedback score, and sure enough, it was dicey -- like 3 or 4 with a couple of negatives! DOHH!!

The negatives weren't totally bad -- poor communication, slow delivery, and the couple of positives looked good -- from buyers with good scores. I held my breath and ended up getting a brand new item -- $200 retail plus tax minimum -- for $100, shipping was only $ten. Still, not a smart move on my part. Could'a been worse.
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Old 06-25-2006, 02:06 AM
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Thanks, I can see that. Doesn't say much about them though, does it?
Not much at all, except maybe, "we're trying to look legit here... give us a minute, will you?"
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:03 AM
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The only way all or most of them could be shills when they have decent feedback ratings, is if a circle of eBay sharks bought stuff legitimately when they saw something they wanted -- just nursed their rating to a decent position so that they could shill now and then w/o arousing suspicion.
In the darker regions of the net you can buy eBay logins with feedback for use in questionable practice. It is a form of identity theft, the hottest growth industry in the US.

How do you like that electric impact? I have an old corded one I have been using for years and have thought of getting a cordless one. The SnapOn cordless impact is made in China.
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Old 06-25-2006, 08:38 AM
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It may be one of those uniquely American enterprises where the hard cash profits from the sale of white,crystalline powder are,what's the word?laundered by buying cheap knock-offs and skilful marriages and attempting to vend them in the easieast,least troublesome way.

Or perhaps the guy is simply of a moronic bent and believes what the consignees tell him?
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Old 06-25-2006, 09:17 AM
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Thanks, I can see that. Doesn't say much about them though, does it?
I agree, it doesn't say much; almost content-free. To me, that's a wash with respect to evaluating them as a seller.

I've seen relatively elaborate web sites for scams. Someone (Kuan, perhaps?) showed us one a while back that purported to sell bicycles on-line. Nice pictures of bikes (stock photos linked from manufacturer web sites); pictures of the supposed bricks-n-mortar store, including staff; bogus VeriSign, etc. icons. They even had rave reviews from customers (which turned out to have been lifted from another, genuine bicycle shop's web page). Scammers, yes, but with at least a modicum of initiative!

I've also seen web sites from legitimate businesses who obviously felt the need to have some sort of presence on the Web, but hadn't felt compelled to take it very far at that point in time - sometimes nothing more than a "who we are" page. For some, that may make pretty good sense.
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Old 06-25-2006, 04:03 PM
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I see that this thing didn't sell at $50,000, and doesn't seemed to have a bid in the last week. With 30 some early bids that took it that high, don't things usually really take off in the last couple of hours ? Really makes you wonder.
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Old 06-29-2006, 11:20 PM
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so what do you all think? bogus deal? or for real?

i mean the bidding. real or chandelier variety?

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Old 06-30-2006, 01:49 AM
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In the darker regions of the net you can buy eBay logins with feedback for use in questionable practice. It is a form of identity theft, the hottest growth industry in the US.

How do you like that electric impact? I have an old corded one I have been using for years and have thought of getting a cordless one. The SnapOn cordless impact is made in China.
Whoa, I missed this one.

I like the cordless impact real well. Took me awhile to get used to it. One of my coworkers had the earlier 9.6V impact and it was hard for me to use. Once you get the hang of it, they're great. Noisy as hell though. Especially if you're screwing down some plywood sheathing on a wall. Like a huge guitar soundboard, with the impact a rat-a-tat-tatting away.

My previous screw-gun was a Makita 14.4V cordless drill. I liked it at first a lot, but the damn thing is real heavy. The impact weighs almost half as much, I'd guess. On the cordless drills, the chuck and the gearing for low and high speed both add a lot of weight. The impact has neither, which also makes it much more compact for getting into tight spaces.

You don't need to push down as hard with it as you do a cordless drill, because when it hits resistance, it does the impact thing, which helps to keep it from jumping off the screw or rounding out the phillips female screw head.

And when you're taking screws out, after it rat-a-tat-tats for a second or two, it zooms up to full speed which is way faster than the low speed setting on a cordless -- maybe faster than the high speed as well, not certain.
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Old 06-30-2006, 02:06 AM
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so what do you all think? bogus deal? or for real?

i mean the bidding. real or chandelier variety?

tom w
Something is bizarre here. If it's a kit car, which sure seems to be the case, $50 K is a good price, from what I can gather. I read about a guy who builds Classic Car's Sebring MX, a knock-off of the old Austin Healy, for sale in the turn-key edition. He puts the Chev 350 variety in most of them and asks around $37,500. Might even be this company here:



This picture is only one I could snag. I don't believe the guy I read about built the stock, two tone looking thing. I've never been that drawn to the Cobra kits, but the Austin Healy looks pretty good. Weighs about 2,550 lbs. Uses older Mustang ll suspension which might be hard to track down. I've got a fantasy to put a 617 into one of them.

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