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Old 08-01-2006, 11:40 PM
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The fallacies of gravity

You read it right folks! Apparently gravity has some things wrong with it. When surfing the internet I came upon this wonderful gem: http://www.christianforums.com/t3070857-the-fallacies-of-gravity.html

Of note was this: number 3. on earth we see things that defy “gravity” on a daily basis. birds and airplanes for example. are you going to tell me that the gravity of the sun is strong enough to keep PLUTo in orbit but not an airplane or a little bird??????

It amazes me that some people can even think like this...or that they dont think at all. They even mess up a simple scientific fact like gravity. My sister understood gravity when she was 7 and its not like you dont learn this stuff in school. What could be going through these peoples heads to make them see gravity as a false concept? All this adds up to a new level of stupid. Thankefully there seem to be people on there who know what they are talking about. They gave Newtons formula and many other objects of proof that apply to gravity.

However what is also bothersome is that this goes on for 27 pages, 27 PAGES! How long should it take for a regular, clear thinking person to understand gravity? A few seconds as they can test it and see the results. Well it looks as though some people need 27 pages to get educated and to still not accept the fact of gravity.
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Old 08-02-2006, 12:01 AM
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That is very funny. And a little bit scary. I love this quote: "something is wrong here, even at thise immense distances the moons will orbit the planets and not the sun, yet the suns 'gravity' is strong enough supposedly to keep the planets in orbit."
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Old 08-02-2006, 12:21 AM
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Well it's pretty clear to me. Here we have all these scientists trying to tell us that we evolved from monkeys and that the earth has been around for millions of years, which we know isn't true.

In light of that, all of this so called "science" is suspect.

I read a couple pages of it, some people were trying to set the poor dear straight:

Anyone who thinks that creationists should determine the science curriculum in public schools ought to take a nice long look at the OP.

What an odd site...
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Old 08-02-2006, 06:53 AM
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That sure is a strange board. Notice those buttons? You can click and bless at will. Odd, probably satisfies some OCD.

I love this:

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Here's everything you need to know.

F=Gm*M1*M2/r^2

Key point is r^2, power of gravity drops off at the inverse squared of the distance. Use this formula and it'll solve all your questions.

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that formula explains nothing

who made it? why is it in that order? who put it in that order? who decided what should be included into it??? how can it be sicentifically tested??? hmmmm
The OP's problem is his difficulty understanding the whole inverse square relationship. It's like I try and tell people, yeah, drop 10lbs and you'll fly up those hills on a bike. It's not that you're dragging 10 up a hill, you have to multiply that by gravitational force which is 9.8m/s SQUARED.

huh?
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:05 AM
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You have it all wrong. Earth doesn't pull us, the heavens are pushing us down while we're alive. When we die and leave behind our corporeal husks, our souls are free to rise.

I figured I could help with this problem of perception.

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Old 08-02-2006, 11:08 AM
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You guys are trying to confuse me. I'm still trying to change plate tectonics, and now you bring up gravity. Next you'll want me to switch to SI units. (If the good Lord intended for us to use the metric system, he would have given us ten fingers.....)
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Old 08-02-2006, 03:47 PM
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You have it all wrong. Earth doesn't pull us, the heavens are pushing us down while we're alive. When we die and leave behind our corporeal husks, our souls are free to rise.

I figured I could help with this problem of perception.

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Perception or deception?
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Old 08-02-2006, 01:42 PM
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It amazes me that some people can even think like this...or that they dont think at all. They even mess up a simple scientific fact like gravity. My sister understood gravity when she was 7 and its not like you dont learn this stuff in school. What could be going through these peoples heads to make them see gravity as a false concept? All this adds up to a new level of stupid. Thankefully there seem to be people on there who know what they are talking about. They gave Newtons formula and many other objects of proof that apply to gravity.

However what is also bothersome is that this goes on for 27 pages, 27 PAGES! How long should it take for a regular, clear thinking person to understand gravity? A few seconds as they can test it and see the results. Well it looks as though some people need 27 pages to get educated and to still not accept the fact of gravity.
First, lest we forget, gravity is *only a theory*. While it is true that the forcasts of this theory see to be entirely reflected in the way the world works, this fact alone changes nothing.

Second, gravitational theory is not understood, by anyone, much less by your sister when she was seven. Einstein tried to equate it to the other three forces (so-called Field Unification), and failed. While we have been able accurately compute the effects for a very long time, we have no idea why these effects occur.
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Old 08-02-2006, 01:50 PM
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First, lest we forget, gravity is *only a theory*. While it is true that the forcasts of this theory see to be entirely reflected in the way the world works, this fact alone changes nothing.

Second, gravitational theory is not understood, by anyone, much less by your sister when she was seven. Einstein tried to equate it to the other three forces (so-called Field Unification), and failed. While we have been able accurately compute the effects for a very long time, we have no idea why these effects occur.
Hey, I gave a reason, above.

All these physicists just give equations that describe it. I give an explanation. Let them do that. Ha! Who need math?
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Old 08-02-2006, 03:53 PM
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Here (cough-cough) smoke this and tell me.
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Old 08-02-2006, 03:55 PM
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Old 08-02-2006, 04:03 PM
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It's more like the phallices of gravity......


Everyone knows there is no gravity........the earth sucks.
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Old 08-02-2006, 05:11 PM
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I thought that was space

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It's more like the phallices of gravity......


Everyone knows there is no gravity........the earth sucks.
I thought it was space that sucked. Space and the area between my boss's ears. Ooops, sorry. Back to the "bad bosses" thread!

No soup for me.
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Old 08-02-2006, 05:22 PM
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Yeah,well,at my age the thread should be titled"The Phalluses of Gravity"so my wife says
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Old 08-02-2006, 05:08 PM
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You read it right folks! Apparently gravity has some things wrong with it. When surfing the internet I came upon this wonderful gem: http://www.christianforums.com/t3070857-the-fallacies-of-gravity.html

Of note was this: number 3. on earth we see things that defy “gravity” on a daily basis. birds and airplanes for example. are you going to tell me that the gravity of the sun is strong enough to keep PLUTo in orbit but not an airplane or a little bird??????

It amazes me that some people can even think like this...or that they dont think at all. They even mess up a simple scientific fact like gravity. My sister understood gravity when she was 7 and its not like you dont learn this stuff in school. What could be going through these peoples heads to make them see gravity as a false concept? All this adds up to a new level of stupid. Thankefully there seem to be people on there who know what they are talking about. They gave Newtons formula and many other objects of proof that apply to gravity.

However what is also bothersome is that this goes on for 27 pages, 27 PAGES! How long should it take for a regular, clear thinking person to understand gravity? A few seconds as they can test it and see the results. Well it looks as though some people need 27 pages to get educated and to still not accept the fact of gravity.
Like someone once observed, you don't have to believe in gravity, but you are still subject to its effects. Of course some nitwits will refuse to believe the truth when it is absolutely irrefutable and staring them right in the face.
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