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Old 09-05-2006, 07:43 PM
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i wonder how many teenagers died trying his tricks?

just a thought.

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How many teenagers die playing football?

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Old 09-05-2006, 07:59 PM
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Below is where you can spout off about how bad of a parent I am for using television to teach my children about worlds 10,000 miles away.
F-them. You have probably been around and observed more animals in the wild before the age of 30 than any single one of the tv haters will in their entire lifetimes. Check out the disco channel website--they are working on a tribute.
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How many teenagers die playing football?
Or hockey, baseball, drinking alcohol, or racing cars?

My dad had a kid die during a game when he was working on his 1st masters and teaching/coaching HS in the fifties. Massive aneurism burst in the head.
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Old 09-05-2006, 08:23 PM
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Or hockey, baseball, drinking alcohol, or racing cars?

My dad had a kid die during a game when he was working on his 1st masters and teaching/coaching HS in the fifties. Massive aneurism burst in the head.
You know where I am coming from, today I took the kids over a a Gentleman's Farm (you know where ) to see some newborn pigs. We sat on the Gator in the pasture to look at them in the event that Momma decides she did not want us around. To be honest there is a substantial risk in doing that but when the kids want to see or do something I do everything in my power to provide the safeguards.

If something did go wrong I would be on Drudge Report.
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:39 PM
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i wonder how many teenagers died trying his tricks?

just a thought.

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You said just a thought so don't think I am piling on, but did you read today where the man in IN was found in his shed dead of asphyxiation by his 14 foot pet python that had gotten loose? Seriously.

( btw, how could any moron that owned a snake that big approach one that had been out and hadn't fed without at least a 12" knife in hand to slice it open if it went to wrap?)
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:57 PM
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You said just a thought so don't think I am piling on, but did you read today where the man in IN was found in his shed dead of asphyxiation by his 14 foot pet python that had gotten loose? Seriously.

( btw, how could any moron that owned a snake that big approach one that had been out and hadn't fed without at least a 12" knife in hand to slice it open if it went to wrap?)
Not a Boy Scout?
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:27 PM
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i wonder how many teenagers died trying his tricks?

just a thought.

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Only the incredibly stupid ones.

... The smart ones hear and understand the "don't try this at home" disclaimers.

Steve Irwin accomplished more for conservation, environmental and animal causes in one WEEK than the average person does in a lifetime. He was in charge of the national zoo in Australia, and was almost universally considered an expert in his field.

By all accounts, he was also a great friend, great to work with (or for), and an extremely devoted family man.

The incident that killed him actually happened during a very LOW risk activity...Swimming with ocean Rays... An activity that tourists in tropical areas around the world engage in every single day. He wasn't taking any kind of unusual risk at that time.

It was just a one-in-a-billion fluke. You can count on your fingers the number of people who have EVER actually been killed by a Ray... It is an EXTREMELY rare, almost unheard-of occurrence.

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Old 09-05-2006, 10:37 PM
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By all accounts, he was also a great friend, great to work with (or for), and an extremely devoted family man.


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Did you know him Mike? A friend of mine was at Eglin Air Force base when Steve was filming there and he shares your opinion, he said that both Terry and Steve were very nice and respectful to the military escorts.

Personally I think its a tragic loss.
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:51 PM
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You know where I am coming from, today I took the kids over a a Gentleman's Farm (you know where ) to see some newborn pigs. We sat on the Gator in the pasture to look at them in the event that Momma decides she did not want us around. To be honest there is a substantial risk in doing that but when the kids want to see or do something I do everything in my power to provide the safeguards.

If something did go wrong I would be on Drudge Report.
Hey, I bet I know where you were too!

How's he doin' lately, anyway?....

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Did you know him Mike? A friend of mine was at Eglin Air Force base when Steve was filming there and he shares your opinion, he said that both Terry and Steve were very nice and respectful to the military escorts.

Personally I think its a tragic loss.
Nope, but I have met television and film people who have worked with him in the past, and I have read quite a bit about the guy, both before and since his unfortunate passing.

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Hey, I bet I know where you were too!

How's he doin' lately, anyway?....

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F-them. You have probably been around and observed more animals in the wild before the age of 30 than any single one of the tv haters will in their entire lifetimes. Check out the disco channel website--they are working on a tribute.
As big of an energy and time sucker that TV can be, it does have the ability to streamline one's learning curve, if used prudently, which I do some of the time.

The lady Germaine Greer has quite the rep, I don't see eye to eye with her on many things but she strikes me as no dummy. Who knows, maybe she got beat up and raped by a couple of guys while an impressionable youth and could be she picked up on a dominant tendency in Irwin that rang her bells wrong. I like/liked Irwin all in all and respect a lot of his work but there was an element of pushy, in your face-ness regarding critters that didn't sit as well with me as the less interfering films, taken from a distance, such as ol' Marlin Perkins on the Wild Kingdom.

We don't want the vast majority of wild animals in our living room and I imagine the feeling is mutual.
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Old 09-06-2006, 02:26 AM
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The incident that killed him actually happened during a very LOW risk activity...Swimming with ocean Rays... An activity that tourists in tropical areas around the world engage in every single day. He wasn't taking any kind of unusual risk at that time.

It was just a one-in-a-billion fluke. You can count on your fingers the number of people who have EVER actually been killed by a Ray... It is an EXTREMELY rare, almost unheard-of occurrence.
I've been reading that it's happened anywhere between 30 and 80 times world wide. Not sure about the wide discrepancy. Still pretty rare.

He was a good ol' mate but a bit over-confident perhaps. I read that he swam over the ray in shallow water and that it may have felt boxed in.

You can bet tourists will be a little more cautious around them in future.
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I never knew these things could kill... I remember the commercials for SeaWorld, inviting everyone to come pet the stingrays and dolphins
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...but there was an element of pushy, in your face-ness regarding critters that didn't sit as well with me as the less interfering films, taken from a distance, such as ol' Marlin Perkins on the Wild Kingdom.

We don't want the vast majority of wild animals in our living room and I imagine the feeling is mutual.
I agree. Most of the time when humans venture into the animal's habitat, the animals end up losing out.

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