Are Dems really as bad as Repubs? - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

aklim · #31 10-01-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by soypwrd

I know enough to believe that I am not qualified to run for state or national office, which is what I believe we are refering to here. And I am just not cut out to do what needs t be done to win such an office seat.... pander.

I am a member of our town`s planning commission and participate a good deal in local civic situations with glee.

Do you give of yourself to your community aklim?

That's the JD. So why would anyone of substance want it?

The wife and I are part of the Big Brother Big Sister thingy. We are a Big Couple to a girl. Why and how is it related? Running for office is about a job not a service to the community. I find something that I want to do and I do it. I don't want to get involved in a community issue like United Way. If I want to make a donation, I write a check to the organization and not go thru another organization. We felt this girl would be receptive and worthy of our time so we help her. I don't want to get involved in some committee or not know where my efforts go.

soypwrd · #32 10-01-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

That's the JD. So why would anyone of substance want it?

The wife and I are part of the Big Brother Big Sister thingy. We are a Big Couple to a girl.

Previous to our marriage my wife was a Big Sister also. My hat is of to you and your wife aklim. Thank for for your service to your community. We need more of that.

Botnst · #33 10-01-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dculkin

Politicians of all stripes engage in exaggeration to make their points, but are they "all the same" as some people like to say? To those on the right, Dems seem worse. To those on the left, including me, Repubs seem worse. ...

My screwed-up lying sacks of pig feces are better than your screwed-up sacks of pig feces and I have evidence to prove it.

Wait a second, why must we settle for pig feces?

B

t walgamuth · #34 10-01-2006, 11:59 PM

being an elected official is not as easy as it looks.

i found out when on the school board that just saying what you think about things won't work very well.

most folks have some hot button issues. if you are not with them on their hot issue, no matter if you agree on 99% of the issues there are, you will be the enemy. so an experienced pol will avoid answering any question if he can til he figures out the questioners position on it. (if the exchange is one on one). if in a group the experienced pol will talk in circles all around the question without ever answering it and finally take another question. if asked again he will do it again, and again.

now i wasn't an expereinced pol so i was a one termer. i answered too many questions honestly and forthrightly.

see, we all admire honesty and forthrightness as long as the opinoins held agree with our own position.

tom w

aklim · #35 10-02-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

being an elected official is not as easy as it looks.

most folks have some hot button issues. if you are not with them on their hot issue, no matter if you agree on 99% of the issues there are, you will be the enemy. so an experienced pol will avoid answering any question if he can til he figures out the questioners position on it. (if the exchange is one on one). if in a group the experienced pol will talk in circles all around the question without ever answering it and finally take another question. if asked again he will do it again, and again.

now i wasn't an expereinced pol so i was a one termer. i answered too many questions honestly and forthrightly.

see, we all admire honesty and forthrightness as long as the opinoins held agree with our own position.

tom w

But that is just it, isn't it? That means a pol has to basically lie to the public or at least not tell the whole truth or do a song and dance routine. Also, financially, the rewards are not there for such a job. So, why would anyone of substance do that instead of going into the private sector and make more money easier?

t walgamuth · #36 10-02-2006, 12:19 AM

no reason if money is the only issue.

our country's history is full of folks who were financially very successful and decided they wanted to make the world a better place to live in and went into politics.

lincoln, roosevelt, roosevelt, kennedy, fill in the blank. plenty from both parties.

folks interested in money only cause a lot of trouble in elected offices.

kindof like the guys in there now. as far as i am concerned.

tom w

kknudson · #37 10-02-2006, 01:16 AM

Politics

Poli - Multi sided

Tics -- Blood sucking insect.

Need I say more.

OK.

As far as I'm concerned, Politicians are crooks. They have one interest re election. So they don't give a dam whats good for you or me.

WHAT GET's THE MOST VOTES !!!.

The few that had promise go down hill quick after election.

And those that can, or at least want to make a difference. Arnold comes to mind, can't fight the crap from the real Politicians.

They ***** and moan at the huge pay, golden parachutes, etc earned by corp execs. (oK a lot should be *****ed about, but thats not the point).

But check out their pension, and med benefits.

And of course, as mentioned in another thread, some have even voted to give SS to illegals. Give OUR pensions away yeah, bet if it affected their benefits it would have never even come up !!!!

Off subject, but I'm on my soap box.

A guaranteed solution to the SS problem. Take their luxurious package away and put the senate and congress in SS effective IMMEDIATELY.
Two weeks tops, we'd have a solution.

cmac2012 · #38 10-02-2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

no reason if money is the only issue.

our country's history is full of folks who were financially very successful and decided they wanted to make the world a better place to live in and went into politics.

lincoln, roosevelt, roosevelt, kennedy, fill in the blank. plenty from both parties.

folks interested in money only cause a lot of trouble in elected offices.

kindof like the guys in there now. as far as i am concerned.

That goober head, Gary Condit seemed to look at being a representative as a good paying job with a bundle of future fringe binnies, best I can tell.

I mean it was sort of a drag the way they drug him through the mud during the slow news time of year (August) about something he didn't do. How do I remember it was August? What was the news story that got him off of cable news? Yup. 9/11. Gary Condit: the only person in America who came out ahead on 9/11.

Still, the whole episode displayed what an empty suit the guy was.

soypwrd · #39 10-02-2006, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

... Gary Condit: the only person in America who came out ahead on 9/11.

I beg to differ with you cmac. President Smirkenswagger was the real winner with 9/11, without it he`d have only been a one termer. But that is the short term thing, it`ll actually be the thing that brings down his term in office in reality and in the history books. It is a double edge sword for the Simpleton in Chief.

cmac2012 · #40 10-02-2006, 10:52 AM

Good point. I have no doubt that Rove and crew saw the Dubbles numbers go up in the what, 80 or 90% range after the war in Afghanistan and said "whoa.... can we get some more of this please?"

t walgamuth · #41 10-02-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Good point. I have no doubt that Rove and crew saw the Dubbles numbers go up in the what, 80 or 90% range after the war in Afghanistan and said "whoa.... can we get some more of this please?"

."..time to work in our agenda."

tom w

mikemover · #42 10-03-2006, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kknudson

Politics

Poli - Multi sided

Tics -- Blood sucking insect.

Need I say more.

OK.

As far as I'm concerned, Politicians are crooks. They have one interest re election. So they don't give a dam whats good for you or me.

WHAT GET's THE MOST VOTES !!!.

The few that had promise go down hill quick after election.

And those that can, or at least want to make a difference. Arnold comes to mind, can't fight the crap from the real Politicians.

They ***** and moan at the huge pay, golden parachutes, etc earned by corp execs. (oK a lot should be *****ed about, but thats not the point).

But check out their pension, and med benefits.

And of course, as mentioned in another thread, some have even voted to give SS to illegals. Give OUR pensions away yeah, bet if it affected their benefits it would have never even come up !!!!

Off subject, but I'm on my soap box.

A guaranteed solution to the SS problem. Take their luxurious package away and put the senate and congress in SS effective IMMEDIATELY.
Two weeks tops, we'd have a solution.

Yep.

Right on target.

Allow me to use a much-overused, but still fitting quote: A plague on BOTH their houses.

Democrats and Republicans alike have turned our Congress into a den of self-serving, arrogant, pompous, career-politicians who all think they are enlightened, invincible, untouchable geniuses.

We need strict term limits for Congressmen. NOW.

We need MUCH easier ballot access for 3rd-party candidates. NOW.

We need to do some serious housecleaning in BOTH major parties of Congress. NOW.

Mike

Matt L · #43 10-03-2006, 10:07 PM

As long as people believe that a vote for a third-party candiate is "throwing their vote away," we'll just have more of the same.

Personally, unless the Democratic or Republican candidate is really striking, I think you're throwing your vote away if you don't vote third party.

450slcguy · #44 10-03-2006, 10:46 PM

Funny videos, yes us Dems are BAD

http://www.myheavy.com/video.php?video_id=432&type=heavy

t walgamuth · #45 10-04-2006, 09:02 PM

i dont support term limits, but i would eleminate the seniority system. and i would figure a way to finance elections that didnt require donations. or elimenate the usefulness of money in elections. like providing free advertising or just make advertising illegal and only allow the publicity that is provided by normal news coverage.

the current system of financing elections is corrupt.

the canadian way seems attractive. elections can be held any time i think so campaigning is pretty much impossible.

tom w