Would you consume meat or milk from cloned animals? - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

#16 12-31-2006, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulC

If there is no genetic difference between the clone and its genetic source, what is the concern?

People are scared they will turn into 4 arm mutants if they eat it?

I don't understand why people are so afraid of it. There is nothing to be afraid of. If nothing else, it will actually be BETTER because the animals will be more healthy.

Matt SD300 · #17 12-31-2006, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Because it is not natural? IOW, nature didn't do it so if you eat it, you pen1s might fall off?

Problem is the word "natural" is being used to sell all sorts of snake oil today. Just put the word "natural" in front of it and you will get some buyers. Natural Viagra. Natural Penis Enlargement pills. Well, lead is natural and so is arsenic.

The more I read your posts ...the more I see YOUR avatar fitting to you..

pastmaster · #18 12-31-2006, 01:45 AM

NO WAY JOSE!!!

Too new for me to be a test subject. We don't know where the current HyBrids, in plants and animals will lead down the generations. Many countries will not buy or use our grain products, because of their caution and fear, of the possible dangers. May be nothing to worry about, but I am cautious and will pass, at this time.

Matt SD300 · #19 12-31-2006, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackE55

Wow -- ever met him? I have (and his wife) for dinner in Madison. Great guy. As a matter a fact I've met close to a dozen people here and they're all cool.

So you dont think his avator is cool???..........or you admit to knowing right from wrong?.. either way...Nothing but great guys on this forum... HAPPY NEW
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aklim · #20 12-31-2006, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

So you dont think his avator is cool???..........or you admit to knowing right from wrong?

I don't use the general standards of right and wrong. I have different rules to work with.

Hatterasguy · #21 12-31-2006, 10:36 AM

People worry to much, its fine.

t walgamuth · #22 12-31-2006, 01:26 PM

i am not afraid to eat it but the concerns about collapsing food supplies seems like a valid one.

we already suffer from disease spreading too easily because of our huge fields of all one crop and so forth.

i can't see it as a big advantage.

a few years ago there was a fellow in england (?) who had a holstein cow that produced a huge amount of milk. 20 or 30% more than most. so they were all excited to clone her and increase the milk supply by this huge amount. then one day she dropped dead, at a young age for a cow. heart attack maybe i cannot remember. sometimes there are good reasons that animals and even humans don't stand out hugely.

tom w

Emmerich · #23 12-31-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Delor

Why is it necessary to clone meat in the first place?

More double meat patties

t walgamuth · #24 12-31-2006, 03:29 PM

i like that!

tom w

aklim · #25 12-31-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

a few years ago there was a fellow in england (?) who had a holstein cow that produced a huge amount of milk. 20 or 30% more than most. so they were all excited to clone her and increase the milk supply by this huge amount. then one day she dropped dead, at a young age for a cow. heart attack maybe i cannot remember. sometimes there are good reasons that animals and even humans don't stand out hugely.

tom w

I don't follow. What has cloning her got to do with the cow dropping dead? In fact, that is a good reason for cloning. You get the same cow that produces more milk. Higher efficiency.

t walgamuth · #26 12-31-2006, 06:50 PM

my point was that cloning her would not have gained much since she died so young. i guess i am thinking that her unusual rate of milk production was directly related to her early death.

what good would it do to raise up a cow to milk producing age and get her up and procucing mass quantities of milk to have her die young?

tom w

AustinsCE · #27 12-31-2006, 07:23 PM

Anyone played that Xbox game Dead Rising?

aklim · #28 01-01-2007, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

my point was that cloning her would not have gained much since she died so young. i guess i am thinking that her unusual rate of milk production was directly related to her early death.

what good would it do to raise up a cow to milk producing age and get her up and procucing mass quantities of milk to have her die young?

tom w

Well, if no autopsy was done and we don't know why she died so young it would be difficult to say. However, if the cow contracted some illness and died, who cares? If the cow died of a genetic issue, cloning would also replicate that issue and the clone would die. So, until we know whether the cow died because of some congenital issue or not, we don't know. However, it would be nice to clone this animal because of it's output if it wasn't congenitally flawed.

cmac2012 · #29 01-01-2007, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

I'm not big on cloning at all. Genetics is in its infancy. We've only recently stumbled upon DNA, Watson and Crick in what, the 60s? We've only just sequenced the human genome. So we've got the sequence, all those ATGCs lined up. So...what do they all do and how are they interconnected - no idea. How do all those proteins they code and produce react with one another. No idea. Just little glimpses.

Roughly my take as well. I understand that Dolly the sheep showed signs of being the same age as the animal she was cloned from in some ways, though her chronological age was, of course, younger. A bit dicey, IMO.

Lao Tzu has a line about how the apprentice can flock up when he considers himself to be wiser than his master.