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Old 01-09-2007, 05:16 AM
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...yes, it's begun. The circus has left Lisbon and will take a few more days before they hit the deserts in Africa. Volkswagen has so many Touaregs in the race this year, it looks they want to win whatever the cost, they even entered an American team. Beating the Mitsubishi's and Luc Aphand will be a major achievement. Kleinschimdt has switched to the diesel BMW that did very well last time. For the bikes, nobody seems to be able to challenge KTM, aswell as Kamaz for the trucks. Cann't wait for those helicopter camera shots over de Sahara...

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Old 01-09-2007, 06:06 AM
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...yes, it's begun. The circus has left Lisbon and will take a few more days before they hit the deserts in Africa. Volkswagen has so many Touaregs in the race this year, it looks they want to win whatever the cost, they even entered an American team. Beating the Mitsubishi's and Luc Aphand will be a major achievement. Kleinschimdt has switched to the diesel BMW that did very well last time. For the bikes, nobody seems to be able to challenge KTM, aswell as Kamaz for the trucks. Cann't wait for those helicopter camera shots over de Sahara...
It's great stuff, I loved to watch any parts of this rally. There's isn't really anything that compares and I doubt that many here can actually relate to it.
I wonder if there is any channel at all to show some of it, I'm not a TV person, so I wouldn't know.
Here's a little Wiki-info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakar_Rally
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Old 01-09-2007, 07:19 AM
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It's great stuff, I loved to watch any parts of this rally. There's isn't really anything that compares and I doubt that many here can actually relate to it.
I wonder if there is any channel at all to show some of it, I'm not a TV person, so I wouldn't know.
Here's a little Wiki-info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakar_Rally
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:10 AM
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What a feeling, ain't it? Now, that I did on purpose.
Guess we should be out there blasting through the sand dunes instead.
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:15 PM
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Any Peugeot's?
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:29 PM
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Any Peugeot's?
I am sure there will be. They have been rally contenders for years. I can't see them having no entrants.

I stand corrected. I checked the lineup and saw one Renault and no Peugeots.
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:40 PM
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I am sure there will be. They have been rally contenders for years. I can't see them having no entrants.

I stand corrected. I checked the lineup and saw one Renault and no Peugeots.
from '87 to '91 I think,Peugeot led the field,several years later it was Citroen's turn,2-3 years running?
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TV coverage is pretty dismal here. I haven't heard of anyone showing it.
I don't think MBZ runs a factory backed Unimog. I think they might have an ML, but not sure.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:17 AM
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I remember seeing footage many years back and it struck me as very dramatic. It seems to be very challenging for drivers and vehicles.

For example driving during darkness must be incredibly difficult, they start sections before dawn and you better stay on the sandy pista.

The end comes somewhat heroic when vehicles enter the finale along the stretches of West African shores.
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Old 01-10-2007, 04:21 AM
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TV coverage is pretty dismal here. I haven't heard of anyone showing it.
I don't think MBZ runs a factory backed Unimog. I think they might have an ML, but not sure.
No MB factory team, but I'm sure there are MB's among the amateur competitors.
The scale of this rallye has become enormous, like 10 helicopters & 20 planes>>

http://www.dakar.fr/2007/DAK/presentation/us/r1_4-les-chiffres.html
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Old 01-10-2007, 04:24 AM
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TV coverage is pretty dismal here. I haven't heard of anyone showing it.
That could change soon: there's an American biker doing very well, and favourite Volkswagen has an American driver. Daily coverage here, on various channels. The footage is -again- awesome.
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Old 01-10-2007, 04:35 AM
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If Lance would be in the race on a sand bike we'd have coverage from start to finish.
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Old 01-10-2007, 05:07 AM
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So how is Gerard de Rooy doing?
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:30 AM
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If Lance would be in the race on a sand bike we'd have coverage from start to finish.

Seems just the thing for him to do now he's retired, actually.
Luc Alphand used to be a champion downhill skiier.
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:33 AM
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So how is Gerard de Rooy doing?
Terrible. He's driving a GINAF now, that let's him down all the time.
He also got a time penalty of a couple of hours for some reason, so he's no longer a contender for the podium. Looks like he's a bit over the hill. His son Gerard is doing fine so far. Lots of other Dutch truckers in the race aswell btw. (Hans Beks, Hans Stacey).

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