It's heeeeeerrrreeeee
 

Soon to be followed by the iPhone Nano, then the iPhone Neuro, which will be a tiny implant inserted into one's cochlea.

The real question is, when to jump on the wagon? :D

It is supposed to be a "multi year" contract with Cingular............since Cingular sucks around here I will not have one unless it can be unlocked like my Blackberry.

Cingular has it.. sweeeet im soo upgrading
Its out in June. 600$ for the 8 gig model... gives me time to save.

The Zune is DEAD now!!!!!

Yeah I gotta say, Zune is just WAY too late. It looks nice, but the market it super saturated.

I've been waiting for that gadget for a LOOOONG time! I've been with Cingular since '99, and I'll be due for an "upgrade" by June!!!! :D

Mike

OK, someone explain to me the big deal.

I've had my current iPaq phone for over a year, and an earlier one for 4 before that.

I have a phone, with full internet, email, contacts, word, excel, games AND music all in one device.

The email is outlook, and connects to my corporate (personal) exchange server.

Storage has been limited, but thats changing quickly with 8 gig SD cards.
Gee my one gig card only holds 100 or so albums (OK, I removed a few songs from each, the ones I didn't want anyhow)

So I've had everything for 5 years.

And while it does have a keyboard, it's touchscreen. The phone dialer is touch screen only !!!!


Yes, it's Windows Mobile.



PS any comments about virus's vs Apple remember this is MOAB
As Coined by Apple Loyalists !!!

That is "Month Of Apple Bugs", they have been reporting Holes in the OS faster than Apple can fix them(In fact over half the temporary patches are not from Apple).
Not even counting things like the current Adobe hole, affects ALL OSs.


I have nothing against Macs, use what you like best.
But for corporate stuff, Sorry Windows is it FOR NOW.

I have also stated if Jobs gets smart and quits trying to control the hardware and just sell the OS on any Intel hardware, for the first time in years there is an OS that could scare Msft.

The iphone goes far beyond the iPaq.

Gee, no offense, but black is darker than white.

Goes far beyond, how ..................

Maybe I am missing the point of this MOAB thing, but these flaws they are finding in OS X seem pretty picky to me, especially when compared to the endless flaws in Microsoft products.

I don't know anything about the Zune, but I almost felt sorry for its designers on the day it came out. The news people reporting on it just tore it to ribbons. Microsoft has single-handedly refuted the saying, "Build a better mouse trap and customers will beat a path to your door." That rule now says, "Build a dominant technology and customers will have no choice but to come to your door."

Just stated the MOAB thing, because up here anytime some says Windows there are 4 "Get a Mac" posts.
I just get sick of the zealots, no offense to them.



Look at it logically, the MAC OS is based on UNIX.
300% of the reason UNIX/LINUX has never made inroads on the desktop is zealots.

My (insert flavor) is better than your (insert flavor).
Insert Flavor = BSD, ATT, SUN, AIX, ... or Linux Redhat, Unbutu ....

IF 25 years ago these guys had gotten together and standardized them Bill Gates would probably be flippin burgers.
None of them are compatible, each is unique and different (the Linux's have gotten better, BUT haven't solved the issue).
I have worked on most over the years(I've been in the industry, hard to believe, almost 40 years and I'm just over 50. I was programming before I could drive, common today, not so in the late 60s), the consistency of Windows is what made it.

Believe me I can give you some choice words about Windows and it's FUs.
And a BE UT that affect Windows Mobile !!!!

And regarding the endless flaws in Windows, many are pretty picky too.
The hole can only be exploited under some pretty complex situations.
But you only see "7 patches released this week". Read the details.

Funny, I have 7 computers here. Hardware is my biggest headache.
Hack me, yea right !!!

And my brothers Mac has given him some grief !!


Agree Zune is ???

Although the new Sansa from SanDisk has some interesting features, a bit clunky though.

Still I've had, and used, a phone with an MP3 player for 5 years.

So other than it comes from God Steve vs. the Devil Bill ....

Hey knudson,
My sentiments exactly,to all you've said,and I couldn't have said it better myself.I would have sounded like an idiot.but you delivered well.

Thanks truckinik.

I've become real jaded on my industry, seen it ruined over the years.

Although it was fun almost 30 years ago, working at a consulting firm.
There were a bunch of us doing heavy Unix internal stuff for several different flavors.

Company get togethers were a riot when the ATT (my team), the AIX, and the Berkley groups got together.

If Nerds could fight - hehe

Excellent summary kknudson.
I am sick of Mac people's attitude, whenever someone poses a Windows question here, invariably some pretentious "genious" feels the need to offer a real helpful advice, like "Why don't you get a Mac?". Mac has its advantages, none that would me make switch over to a machine where I can't add or exchange components and or peripherals from the vendor of my choice, at my convenience. No way in hell will I be locked in with one hardware manufacturer. Screw Jobs and his business model.
A few years ago Apple almost went bankrupt because of its proprietary hardware.
I run XP/SP2 with 2g memory on a 17" Toshiba Satellite, use Firefox and have/had no problems, no viruses, worms, etc, even though it is connected to the Net 24/7.
I reboot maybe once or twice a month, it runs along just fine.

I can play MP3s, surf the net, send-receive e-mail on my 3G GMS cellphone, it has a built in Japanese-English dictionary, 2 cameras (yeah), games, etc, it is 1.4cm thick flip phone, what the hell do I need to shell out 600 bucks for? I paid $50, signed up for 2 years, I just don't see what is the earth shattering deal about that product. Here in Japan every second phone has a TV feature now, why would I ever want to watch TV on a 2" screen (or on the navigation system in my car on a 6" screen, just because I can, I guess)? Or surf the Net for that matter, utterly useless in my view. I love technology, I just don't think that phone is such a big deal as some makes it out to be. I don't need to have my entire CD collection on my phone so I can listen to it through tiny, bad speakers.

Alex

Get a Mac.

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