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Old 02-16-2007, 10:22 AM
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My wife is smarter than me.

My ego is larger than hers.

It's a no win situation.
You are screwed.

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Old 02-16-2007, 10:25 AM
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My wife is smarter than me.

My ego is larger than hers.

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Make sure she reads this thread.
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Old 02-16-2007, 10:52 AM
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How Not to Talk to Your Kids
The Inverse Power of Praise.

* By Po Bronson


What do we make of a boy like Thomas?

For the past ten years, psychologist Carol Dweck and her team at Columbia (she’s now at Stanford) studied the effect of praise on students in a dozen New York schools. Her seminal work—a series of experiments on 400 fifth-graders—paints the picture most clearly.

Dweck sent four female research assistants into New York fifth-grade classrooms. The researchers would take a single child out of the classroom for a nonverbal IQ test consisting of a series of puzzles—puzzles easy enough that all the children would do fairly well. Once the child finished the test, the researchers told each student his score, then gave him a single line of praise. Randomly divided into groups, some were praised for their intelligence. They were told, “You must be smart at this.” Other students were praised for their effort: “You must have worked really hard.”

Why just a single line of praise? “We wanted to see how sensitive children were,” Dweck explained. “We had a hunch that one line might be enough to see an effect.”

Then the students were given a choice of test for the second round. One choice was a test that would be more difficult than the first, but the researchers told the kids that they’d learn a lot from attempting the puzzles. The other choice, Dweck’s team explained, was an easy test, just like the first. Of those praised for their effort, 90 percent chose the harder set of puzzles. Of those praised for their intelligence, a majority chose the easy test. The “smart” kids took the cop-out.

Why did this happen? “When we praise children for their intelligence,” Dweck wrote in her study summary, “we tell them that this is the name of the game: Look smart, don’t risk making mistakes.” And that’s what the fifth-graders had done: They’d chosen to look smart and avoid the risk of being embarrassed.

In a subsequent round, none of the fifth-graders had a choice. The test was difficult, designed for kids two years ahead of their grade level. Predictably, everyone failed. But again, the two groups of children, divided at random at the study’s start, responded differently. Those praised for their effort on the first test assumed they simply hadn’t focused hard enough on this test. “They got very involved, willing to try every solution to the puzzles,” Dweck recalled. “Many of them remarked, unprovoked, ‘This is my favorite test.’ ” Not so for those praised for their smarts. They assumed their failure was evidence that they weren’t really smart at all. “Just watching them, you could see the strain. They were sweating and miserable.”

Having artificially induced a round of failure, Dweck’s researchers then gave all the fifth-graders a final round of tests that were engineered to be as easy as the first round. Those who had been praised for their effort significantly improved on their first score—by about 30 percent. Those who’d been told they were smart did worse than they had at the very beginning—by about 20 percent.

Dweck had suspected that praise could backfire, but even she was surprised by the magnitude of the effect. “Emphasizing effort gives a child a variable that they can control,” she explains. “They come to see themselves as in control of their success. Emphasizing natural intelligence takes it out of the child’s control, and it provides no good recipe for responding to a failure.”

In follow-up interviews, Dweck discovered that those who think that innate intelligence is the key to success begin to discount the importance of effort. I am smart, the kids’ reasoning goes; I don’t need to put out effort. Expending effort becomes stigmatized—it’s public proof that you can’t cut it on your natural gifts.

Repeating her experiments, Dweck found this effect of praise on performance held true for students of every socioeconomic class. It hit both boys and girls—the very brightest girls especially (they collapsed the most following failure). Even preschoolers weren’t immune to the inverse power of praise.

Jill Abraham is a mother of three in Scarsdale, and her view is typical of those in my straw poll. I told her about Dweck’s research on praise, and she flatly wasn’t interested in brief tests without long-term follow-up. Abraham is one of the 85 percent who think praising her children’s intelligence is important. Her kids are thriving, so she’s proved that praise works in the real world. “I don’t care what the experts say,” Jill says defiantly. “I’m living it.”
Ms. Dweck was on NPR yesterday and spoke of another area of childhood development. She said it was all about letting your kid know that their brain power is not a fixed thing, but is dynamic and you can learn as much as you want. You are never limited by brain capacity. Children that were taught this did better in school than those that thought their intelligence is a static thing.

This is very ironic since my wife, eldest son, his teacher and myself just had a parent teacher conference yesterday regarding his overall performance in the 5th grade. He is intelligent and applies himself very well when it is something he likes, but will put less effort in things he is not so good at. Besides knowing that the iron fist does not work any more, we discussed that just because your intelligence may be above the average, you still have to work to get results. According to his teacher, our concerns are somewhat unfounded and he is at the top of his class, but there is room for improvement that would come from more effort being exerted by him.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:42 AM
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Even though the theme of this thread is "Talking to you kid," I think it's probably worthwhile to mention that LISTENING to your kids is pretty important. Maybe that's more important than TALKING to them.

It's also pretty hard. I find talking to them is much easier than listening, but the talking does more good once you've listened and really HEARD what THEY have to say. That's pretty much true in every relationship, though.

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