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Old 03-07-2007, 01:02 PM
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Just like I tell them I am an ex-Marine and I have lots of guns!
Exactly!

I never saw it as a threat either.

Just a simple FAQ session.

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I can see it if and when women are commodities. The father is preserving the value of his property But this only makes sense if viriginity is of higher value than non-virginity.
A dowry is payment for the girl, and the buyer wants the latest model.
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:11 PM
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Are there example of other animalswith virgin cults?
No. Since the human species is the only animal able to reason, there would be no other animals (at least on earth) that would form a virgin cult club.
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:13 PM
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No. Since the human species is the only animal able to reason, there would be no other animals (at least on earth) that would form a virgin cult club.
I was thinking of rudimentary virigin cults, something like a special focus on female offspring as they approach sexual maturity.
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:16 PM
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Why do humans value viriginity so much?
In modern, Western societies, I don't believe that being a virgin is held in as high a standard as you seem to portray. What percentage of non-married 18-year-olds are virgins? What percentage of 20-year-olds? 25?

On the flip side, I think that fathers want to protect "underage" daughters from sexual predators (both older and of similar age), until that point when the daughter is able to make a sensible choice for herself. At that point, it becomes a don't ask/don't tell arrangement.
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In modern, Western societies, I don't believe that being a virgin is held in as high a standard as you seem to portray. What percentage of non-married 18-year-olds are virgins? What percentage of 20-year-olds? 25?

On the flip side, I think that fathers want to protect "underage" daughters from sexual predators (both older and of similar age), until that point when the daughter is able to make a sensible choice for herself. At that point, it becomes a don't ask/don't tell arrangement.
I agree that there is much less of an emphasis on female virginity in our culture nowadays even though we still have the virgin Mary. But these balls obvious appeal to something in human beings.
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I was thinking of rudimentary virigin cults, something like a special focus on female offspring as they approach sexual maturity.
I would imagine not....animals are more concerned with the basics like survival.

This is not to say that there aren't social interaction in many animal communities, but not to the level of reasoning required to suggest cult-group obligation. In other words, it's not "inbred" in us, so why would it be instinctive in other animals?
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:26 PM
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But these balls obvious appeal to something in human beings.
Only to a fraction of a fraction of a percentage.

Sadly, there are probably more NAMBLA members in our society.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:41 PM
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Paris Hilton delcared that she was starting a year of sexual abstinence, saying, "I like the way guys go crazy when you say they can't have sex with you. If he can't have you, he stays interested. The moment he has you, he's gone."

Then she laughed so hard, semen shot out of her nose

Now me too... well except for the type of projectile.
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I don't know if mine are purdy or not. I never really looked.

. . . Whaaa . . OH! PURITY balls. . . . Never mind.
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Old 03-09-2007, 10:37 AM
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I did the same thing and in retrospect, I think it did concern ownership rights. My father in law walked my wife down the aisle when we got married and answered the question, "Who gives this woman to be married to this man" with "Her Mother and I do". Nobody objected to the exchange of a girl.
i never gave it a thought. just seemed like a quaint tradition to me.

when my oldest daughter married, she had a bit of a quandry as she had lived with her mother since we divorced when she was only about 2. while we were fairly close she also had a step father who was golden to her. so she had us both walk her down the aisle and we said "we do" when the question was asked. big smiles all around.

an ingenious solution to a potentially tricky problem.

unfortuntaley the step father is no longer with us but my daughters certifiable mother still is.

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Old 03-09-2007, 11:55 AM
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I have daughters and the show totally creeped me out.

I think that abstinence for young people, especially in this age of STDs, is a laudable goal. But these people are just a bit too creepy for my liking.

What about the boys?

Do they pledge virginity to their moms?

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I suppose that there may be two basis for this, one biological and the other economical.

Biological--to make sure that only one's biological material is being passed along and that one does not consume valuable, and scarce, resources to preserve another's DNA line.

Economical--pretty much the same as above, plus it is a device preserve that property does not pass (through inheritance) to the "wrong" DNA line.
Something like a family I heard of? IIRC, it was the DuPonts?

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