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BENZ-LGB · #46 03-19-2007, 07:18 PM

Some people are real heavy sleepers....

WVOtoGO · #47 03-19-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by R Leo

Or a tail stair....You. Out the window. Now.

Yep - Not too many air-stairs these days.

She wouldn’t be telling him “out the window. Now.”
She’d be showing him out the window.

She’s a 3rd Dan Sanshou black belt. Some dude grabbed her breast at this past Barrett-Jackson. I was standing about 10‘away. She told him to apologize (in her cute little British accent). I turned just in time to see him try it again. I don’t think he knew just where that first and only kick came from that knocked him out.

He probably still doesn’t.

Some of us that were there, still laugh about it. She didn’t/doesn’t think it‘s funny at all.

WVOtoGO · #48 03-20-2007, 01:16 PM

Met one of my AA Captain friends this morning for coffee at the local SBs.
We talked about this lady dieing on the plane. I asked if AA has a procedure for this sort of thing.

He said that they would land immediately. That nobody on the aircraft (crew wise) has the authority to declare anyone dead (no matter how obvious it was). That they would declare it a medical emergency and perhaps call the company for assistance on the proper procedures (knowing she was dead). The captain of the aircraft does have the final say in the matter when an emergency is declared. So in the case of the BA flight - Perhaps knowing that the arrival of, and future extrication of, a dead body with a foreign country might become an issue. He kept on to the final UK destination.

As for the guy “jacking a load” onto the lady Pax. Neither of us can comprehend why she didn’t do something the second she felt something wasn’t right.

He did say that they had a flight where some pervert tried to fondle a lady who was asleep in the seat next to him. She woke up screaming.

By the time word of the situation made it to the cockpit, the other paxs had taken control of the situation, and had the guy pretty well secured on/to the floor. I would like to have been on that flight.

al76slc · #49 03-20-2007, 02:11 PM

To go back to the original story for a second, isn't there some place that the crew rests on long flights that the body could be stashed?

WVOtoGO · #50 03-20-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by al76slc

To go back to the original story for a second, isn't there some place that the crew rests on long flights that the body could be stashed?

On some of the older 747s (pending the desired configuration) there is a crew rest area/bed. I’ve spent some time in one on an older 747SP. (Not the most peaceful, nor comfortable place to nap in the airplane.) It’s within the cockpit door, right behind the left (Captains) seat. Sleeps one.

Anyway - Today’s 747/757/767/777 flights requiring two crews (flights over regulated crew hours) will usually just put one crew (two people) in first class. Not a place to “stash” anyone. And the last thing I want to be seen doing it lugging some passed out (much less - dead) woman into the crew rest area within the cockpit of a 747. Picture that one. Things that make passengers go “Hmmmm. What‘s up with that?” not good. Not good at all.

al76slc · #51 03-20-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WVOtoGO

And the last thing I want to be seen doing it lugging some passed out (much less - dead) woman into the crew rest area within the cockpit of a 747.

Yeah, I guess that thought is not particularly appealing, either. And probably somewhat distracting to the flight crew.

In hindsight, maybe move the passengers from the dead woman's row up to 1st class, and put a blanket over the poor woman.

And land pronto.

Surprised they don't have a whole section in the procedural manual about this....

Hatterasguy · #52 03-20-2007, 05:42 PM

I would like to know how they figured out she was dead, and just not in need to quick medical treatment.

My BS detector is going off, something else was going on. Why not set the plane down and offload her right away? What if she was not really dead, but died as a result of them continuing the flight? Think of the legal problems that could have caused.

I look at it this way, if I was taking a boat out on a 9 hour trip and someone died I would run to the nearist port or get them taken off ASAP by the Coast Guard. I would not go about my business as usual, for a variaty of odvious reasons.

R Leo · #53 03-20-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

I look at it this way, if I was taking a boat out on a 9 hour trip and someone died I would run to the nearist port or get them taken off ASAP by the Coast Guard. I would not go about my business as usual, for a variaty of odvious reasons.

Would you make port someplace where there's a high probability that all your living passengers could become hostages?

This pretty much sums it up:
flight from Delhi to London

A great circle route from Indira Ghandi to Gatwick takes you over Pakistan, Afganistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Russia...that BA crew made the right decision when they kept on flying.

Hatterasguy · #54 03-20-2007, 06:11 PM

Ahh now it makes sense, I did no read that part.