Please joint in the "Gas Out" - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

WVOtoGO · #31 05-03-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

I'd like to "joint" in. Personally, I prefer the bong but a joint works too. Will this "gas out day" idea never die?

I’m thinking that if you have a bunch of folks gathered around in anything called a “gas out” - the last thing you want to be doing is lighting anything.

BOOM !!
Why yes...they do burn...

POS · #32 05-03-2007, 08:47 PM

Just for this, on May 15th I'm going to fill up:

31 gals - my Suburban
27 gals - my wife's Lexus
23 gals - my w124
18 gals - my w123 (for sale, btw)
22 gals - my r107

That's 121 gallons. That should offset this insane idea that it'll teach the oil companies a lesson. Get everyone to quit buying fuel for a year, and you'll have something. But I won't do that either. I hope the oil companies make as much profit as they can - they take a lot of risks for those bucks, and they deserve the profit. Profit makes the world go 'round. Take an economics class, would you please?

aklim · #33 05-03-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by POS

Just for this, on May 15th I'm going to fill up:

31 gals - my Suburban
27 gals - my wife's Lexus
23 gals - my w124
18 gals - my w123 (for sale, btw)
22 gals - my r107

That's 121 gallons. That should offset this insane idea that it'll teach the oil companies a lesson. Get everyone to quit buying fuel for a year, and you'll have something. But I won't do that either. I hope the oil companies make as much profit as they can - they take a lot of risks for those bucks, and they deserve the profit. Profit makes the world go 'round. Take an economics class, would you please?

Bah, humbug. 44 Gals on the Excursion and 24 on the E300

Hatterasguy · #34 05-03-2007, 10:17 PM

I remember last fall when we yanked my buddy's boat out of the water. We filled it up on land since fuel is cheaper, and his truck at the same time; with 93 octane. I forgot what it cost him(probably damn near $3 a gallon), but I do know we used 135 gallons, the guy at the register thought he had a leak!

We did get free coffee out of it.

Boats drink a lot of fuel, you havn't bought fuel until you get a four digit bill.

Last summer when fuel was $4 a gallon, I was talking to a friend who has a Hatt 46. He had just come back from a trip and was damn near dry, I think he took 700 gallons, at $4 a gallon. Whip out the Amex... That single boat offests about a dozen hippies with their hybrids.

BENZ-LGB · #35 05-03-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt L

No excuses needed. People keep buying it, so the price keeps going up. When you see people dumping their SUVs due to the price, it will have to come down. Until then, it won't.

I agree. Gas prices in So. Cal. are outrageous. Still, people keep buying their obscenely wasteful SUVs. I can understand it if you have lots of stuff to move around or if you have a big family. But about 90% of the SUVs I see on the road are single-occupancy.

Last summer I was able to convince my wife to give up her beloved Yukon and start driving the E320. Boy am I glad I did!

One question for you boys and girls (maybe I'll make this a separate thread).

With gas prices going through the roof, are you giving up something in order to save moeny for gas? Maybe postponing a major purchase? Trimming down
on vacation plans?

If gas prices keep going up, there will eventually be a negative impact on the economy. Most people can't afford to pay for the extra cost of gas AND still spend like they used to do before the gas price hikes.

We haven't given up anything...yet. But we are far more careful about making needless car trips and are going out to dinner less often. Not a big sacrifice yet...

aklim · #36 05-03-2007, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

Last summer I was able to convince my wife to give up her beloved Yukon and start driving the E320. Boy am I glad I did!

With gas prices going through the roof, are you giving up something in order to save moeny for gas? Maybe postponing a major purchase? Trimming down
on vacation plans?

Yes, but you are irrelevant. The question is whether SWMBO is happier. If not, you might not be having your nights set on fire. I had the wife gave up her Merkur Scorpio. She has gone thru a 201, 202 and now has a 210. However, she does mention it now and then. I was just tired of chasing parts that were obsoleted by Ford.

I wouldn't call it "going thru the roof". We go thru this same scene every year. We just roll with it. Already have it figured out into the finances. So, to answer your question, no. If needs be, I'll get a part time job bagging groceries during winter to make up for the gas increase but nothing yet planned.

Hatterasguy · #37 05-03-2007, 10:58 PM

Currantly I make very little since I am kind of between career's. But I don't drive much(10k-15k a year, and my cars get good mileage. I just added up all the fuel I have used since Feb 2 of this year. About $300 worth, the cheapest fuel was $2.52 a gallon, most expensive was on Monday, at $2.92.

I can't really complain, in my broke state it doesn't really affect my life style. Once I start making money again and can write the fuel off as well, I probably won't care that much.

mwood · #38 05-03-2007, 11:02 PM

The only way people are going to conserve is if fuel prices go way up. Prices increase with demand, we use significantly more fuel than we refine; until we change that balance prices will never come down. Ironically we won't conserve until prices force us to, so the big gas guzzling SUV's may lead the way to conservation as they will be hit the hardest.

aklim · #39 05-03-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mwood

The only way people are going to conserve is if fuel prices go way up. Prices increase with demand, we use significantly more fuel than we refine; until we change that balance prices will never come down. Ironically we won't conserve until prices force us to, so the big gas guzzling SUV's may lead the way to conservation as they will be hit the hardest.

Haven't we had this before in the 70s? People bought lunchboxes on wheels. Now they don't. Soon as the crunch ends, people will discard their lunchboxes. I don't think it will go way up. Reason being is that going way up benefits nobody. Oil is something they pump up or don't pump up. They can always pump more if they want to lower the prices. Doesn't pay to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. That is what people do, they weather the storm.

aklim · #40 05-03-2007, 11:14 PM

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp

Here is where the oil money goes to.

300SD81 · #41 05-03-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

I agree. Gas prices in So. Cal. are outrageous. Still, people keep buying their obscenely wasteful SUVs. I can understand it if you have lots of stuff to move around or if you have a big family. But about 90% of the SUVs I see on the road are single-occupancy.

Last summer I was able to convince my wife to give up her beloved Yukon and start driving the E320. Boy am I glad I did!

One question for you boys and girls (maybe I'll make this a separate thread).

With gas prices going through the roof, are you giving up something in order to save moeny for gas? Maybe postponing a major purchase? Trimming down
on vacation plans?

If gas prices keep going up, there will eventually be a negative impact on the economy. Most people can't afford to pay for the extra cost of gas AND still spend like they used to do before the gas price hikes.

We haven't given up anything...yet. But we are far more careful about making needless car trips and are going out to dinner less often. Not a big sacrifice yet...

I've given my savings for the last 4 years to my car and keeping her filled.. At least its with homemade B100.. Man, I need to get a job... Begging my parents for money for anything hasn't worked since I was 10.. "If you want money, earn it." pfft, its called being cheap...

POS · #42 05-04-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

Still, people keep buying their obscenely wasteful SUVs. I can understand it if you have lots of stuff to move around or if you have a big family. But about 90% of the SUVs I see on the road are single-occupancy.

With gas prices going through the roof, are you giving up something in order to save moeny for gas? Maybe postponing a major purchase? Trimming down
on vacation plans?

Part 1 - "Obscenely wasteful SUVs" - what do you care? How do you know how often they use it, and is it relevant to your life anyway? Are those the guys driving up the prices? Buy a small car if you want to, but keep the "holier than thou" crap to yourself. You're free to do as you please just like SUV owners are free to do as they please.

Part 2 - I'm paying more for gas. That's it. It goes up every summer and goes down every fall. I absorb it. Go to Europe sometime, then quit *****ing about our high gas prices and how those horrible SUVs are killing you.

Emmerich · #43 05-04-2007, 12:12 AM

Total BS. We have 56 days of gasoline storage right now. We had a storage draw last week when an increase in storage was expected. So if the supply dried up, we could consume at the current rate for 56 days.

Even if overnight we pushed a button and lets say our country decreased its demand by half, the oil would be sold somewhere else in the world.

Crude is heavily infrastructure dominated. You just can't get it from here to there easily, and then refined into gasoline. Do you know when the last refinery in the US was built? 1976. Environmental wackos are forcing us to use outdate and inefficient refineries, and then complain about energy prices. Refinery margins are about 50-60 cents per gallon, about the same for road taxes. Most of the rest is crude price.

There is no statement to be made, short of a change in American lifestyle and we all know that is not going to happen. In case everyone forgot, we are fighting to maintain our lifestyle in Iraq. Whats that you say? We are an energy dependent country and securing a region of the world that is the largest supplier of crude is a national security issue.

Every war in history has been fought for land/assets/money, this war is no different. Getting rid of a murdering dictator is just icing on the cake.

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Originally Posted by diametricalbenz

Inelastic goods are fantastic for the sellers aren't they?

If everyone stopped buying for two weeks for example they would have a massive oversupply in the pipeline and nowhere to store it. They would have to lower the price to induce people to sell it. I highly doubt the American public would agree to that collectively for such a period of time to make such a statement.

Matt L · #44 05-04-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by POS

Part 1 - "Obscenely wasteful SUVs" - what do you care? How do you know how often they use it, and is it relevant to your life anyway? Are those the guys driving up the prices? Buy a small car if you want to, but keep the "holier than thou" crap to yourself. You're free to do as you please just like SUV owners are free to do as they please.

Part 2 - I'm paying more for gas. That's it. It goes up every summer and goes down every fall. I absorb it. Go to Europe sometime, then quit *****ing about our high gas prices and how those horrible SUVs are killing you.

You got it. I'm not altering my driving habits yet, but did buy a new Jetta which gets 42 MPG average. It will take significantly higher fuel prices to make me drive less.

We just got fuel today. 2.599 for diesel, but 3.159 for RUG which we don't need.

BENZ-LGB · #45 05-04-2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by POS

Part 1 - "Obscenely wasteful SUVs" - what do you care? How do you know how often they use it, and is it relevant to your life anyway? Are those the guys driving up the prices? Buy a small car if you want to, but keep the "holier than thou" crap to yourself. You're free to do as you please just like SUV owners are free to do as they please.

Part 2 - I'm paying more for gas. That's it. It goes up every summer and goes down every fall. I absorb it. Go to Europe sometime, then quit *****ing about our high gas prices and how those horrible SUVs are killing you.

Part 2 first. I don't live in Europe. I have never been to Europe. I will never go to Europe. I don't give a good goddamn what they do in Europe. They may as well be having sex wiht monkeys while driving their cars. It is none of my business what Europeans do or what they pay for gas. The hell with Europe!

Part 1 second. They are obscenely wasteful. They get horrible gas mileage, they pollute more than conventional cars and they are wasteful, especially when there is one single person driving aorund carring nothing but air.

If you think that my opinion is holier than thou, that's just tough. Just like I don't give a good goddamn what Europeans do, or how much they pay for gas, I don't give a good goddamn what you think about my opinions.

Don't like my opinion? Use the ignore button.

Regardless of what you may want to think, the universal consensus is that SUVs are wasteful polluters. I am willing to bet that 90% of the people who drive them don't need them.