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Old 05-22-2007, 09:07 AM
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One thing that I do know is bogus, is this business of labeling from day one any Iraqi who fought against our guys as terrorists. What nonsense. Those guys were in their country, fighting off what they thought to be invaders.
Absolutely -- wouldn't you have done the same? Although we seem to have let China and Japan take over our country with little fight, so I suppose maybe not...

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Old 05-22-2007, 11:29 AM
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I checked the first section of the clip several times. I couldn't find where she precisely said what the Scarborough guy presented.
I'm with you on this one. I have an intense dislike for Rosie and usually am at odds with her opinions and methods, but this is a case where she is having words put in her mouth.

I think she was suggesting that from the point of view of the Iraqi in the street, the terror that had been brought into their everyday lives was at the hand of the US. I didn't hear her blame soldiers specifically. I think it was a condemnation of policy, not people. And I think there is some truth in what she said, specifically that from the POV of the average Iraqi things got much more dangerous for them after the US invaded. I'll bet that is a widely-held belief in Iraq.

Rosie's problem (well, one of them at least) is that she is so well known for shooting her mouth off constantly and for making inflamatory statements that in a case like this it is very easy to spin what she said. Who wouldn't believe a headline that says "Rosie labels US troops as 'terrorists'". Its almost like the boy who cried wolf. Nobody believes you when it counts because of all the crap you've talked in the past.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:34 AM
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She asks for it, pure and simple. I think she loves being embroiled in controversy. After her gig on the View, she should look at getting her own radio show on Air America (that sinking ship).
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ever ponder what a mating between Michael Moore and Rosie O' Donnel might be produce?
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Only a truly sick individual could contemplate something as aweful as that.

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Old 05-22-2007, 01:31 PM
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ever ponder what a mating between Michael Moore and Rosie O' Donnel might be produce?
Yeah two phonies that are in it for the money and not at all for the cause.

There are ways to say what Rosie said, ways that can get the same point across -- but instead she had to do it in her usual fat-head way... a way that the people that need to be lead a bit won't entertain.

Is what she said true? Partly -- her numbers are off, but her theory is right. The fact that before we went there fewer people -- Iraqi and American, etc. were dieing -- and now there are more. Saddam was a bastard, but in a nation full of bastards, what are you going to use to control them? A bigger bastard.

For us to think that these people are going to all of a sudden see our "way of life" -- and follow it is moronic.

Simple as that.

She blew it.
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:16 PM
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I'm with you on this one. I have an intense dislike for Rosie and usually am at odds with her opinions and methods, but this is a case where she is having words put in her mouth.

I think she was suggesting that from the point of view of the Iraqi in the street, the terror that had been brought into their everyday lives was at the hand of the US. I didn't hear her blame soldiers specifically. I think it was a condemnation of policy, not people. And I think there is some truth in what she said, specifically that from the POV of the average Iraqi things got much more dangerous for them after the US invaded. I'll bet that is a widely-held belief in Iraq.

Rosie's problem (well, one of them at least) is that she is so well known for shooting her mouth off constantly and for making inflammatory statements that in a case like this it is very easy to spin what she said. Who wouldn't believe a headline that says "Rosie labels US troops as 'terrorists'". Its almost like the boy who cried wolf. Nobody believes you when it counts because of all the crap you've talked in the past.
Well put. I like Scarborough more and more but the guy is sort of an opportunist. In May of '03 he could be regularly heard asking, "Who's next? Syria? Iran?" Now he's down on the whole thing, calling "W" delusional, etc.

Everything I've heard from interviews with Iraqis indicate that for the vast majority of them, life is more dangerous now than under Saddam.
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Carleton...Why must you talk like such a snob??....Are you from England??...
And just what the bloody Hell this comment is supposed to imply?
That people from England are snobs?

Clueless. Absolutely clueless, this one is.

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And just what the bloody Hell this comment is supposed to imply?
That people from England are snobs?

Clueless. Absolutely clueless, this one is.

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Well,they got them fancy accents, yesah.

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Whut in tarnation is yo' talkin' about? Whut in blazes isun accent?
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And just what the bloody Hell this comment is supposed to imply?
That people from England are snobs?

Clueless. Absolutely clueless, this one is.

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Hey everyone....I'm a pilot & sold my company for more money than I can count!!!.....It seems your hypocrisy has no bounds..... Welcome to the human race....humility optional...LOL..


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