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cmac2012 · #**151** 07-19-2007, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

......I just asked you a simple question .... YES or NO.............

Is JESUS CHRIST the SON OF GOD???????????

I have no way of knowing. I believe he had far greater insight on many matters than the vast majority of people. I fully suspect he had finely tuned antennae and was privy to aspects of creation that the vast majority of us usually are not.

I have serious reservations about Paul, and all of Christendom that has transpired in the interim. JC himself said that many people would draw nigh to him with their mouths, though their hearts were far from him.

OTOH, many Christians have lived exemplary lives and have tried to walk in his footsteps. Usually that type avoids quizzing people on whether or not they use the same nomenclature. Thinking you know the truth and others do not is a form of pride, IMO. Not unlike the pride of our Islamo fascist type dudes.

IMHO.

Matt SD300 · #**152** 07-19-2007, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Y And you're calling other people bigots

"NEVER.... NOT ONCE".... have I called anyone a "Bigot" on this forum..........

"I "have been called it on this forum more than once ...though,,!!!!!!!!

Matt SD300 · #**153** 07-19-2007, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

I have no way of knowing. I believe he had far greater insight on many matters than the vast majority of people. I fully suspect he had finely tuned antennae and was privy to aspects of creation that the vast majority of us usually are not.

I have serious reservations about Paul, and all of Christendom that has transpired in the interim. JC himself said that many people would draw nigh to him with their mouths, though their hearts were far from him.

OTOH, many Christians have lived exemplary lives and have tried to walk in his footsteps. Usually that type avoids quizzing people on whether or not they use the same nomenclature. Thinking you know the truth and others do not is a form of pride, IMO. Not unlike the pride of our Islamo fascist type dudes.

IMHO.

Thank you!

....for your honest answer!!!!!!!!! Like I said... I respect it.........

Some folks... Think?.... I think it's my "Job To Save World" on this forum but it's not....my job is to spread the Gospel....what the people do with it.... is their choice....always has been...........

Gurkha · #**154** 07-19-2007, 05:16 AM

So even if one doesn't wish to hear the gospel, you will forcefully spread it, now thats not wise in any sense.

Matt SD300 · #**155** 07-19-2007, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

So even if one doesn't wish to hear the gospel, you will forcefully spread it, now thats not wise in any sense.

Nope....if .."YOU" were in front of me ........I would sadly dust off my feet..for "YOU HAVE NO EAR TO HEAR".......

"IT'S NOT MY JOB TO SAVE YOUR SOUL"........Get it??????

It's "YOUR" choice.........always has been..........

Gurkha · #**156** 07-19-2007, 05:40 AM

You and your type spread your garbage because you believe and ASS+UME that others are in darkness and need spiritual help, its purely ego, no charity or heart or soul in it. Faith is a personal call, doesn't need to be pushed, coerced or advertised, when someone gets a call from heart, they go it it, it doesn't have to come to them. Pushing one's ways purely speaks of enforcement of faith, my way or nothing.

Tell you what, even if I have the Ear To Hear, I have already heard it before. There were many great personalities before Christ and after Christ and will be there again, great that he and his teachings were, he was not the only one holding the exclusive rights to them, problem is, you and your kind will never give an ear or eye to other philosophy due to your selective blindness and deafness.

Matt SD300 · #**157** 07-19-2007, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

You and your type spread your garbage because you believe

Your....Intolerance for "Christians"...has showed it's UGLY FACE...over & over & over ..again.

............Crucify Crucify Crucify

Gurkha · #**158** 07-19-2007, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

Your....Intolerance for "Christians"...has showed it's UGLY FACE...over & over & over ..again.

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Man, you keep repeating like a broken record, my intolerance is for fanatics like you, be it Islamist, Christians or Hindus, not toward any religion or faith in particular, you are not a Christian in any sense, never was, never shall be.

Matt SD300 · #**159** 07-19-2007, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

you are not a Christian in any sense, never was, never shall be.

John 3:16.........

More....... lie's and insults.................................

How many Insults/Lies....before someone is banned on this forum???????????

saved to my documents

Jim B. · #**160** 07-19-2007, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

Your....Intolerance for "Christians"...has showed it's UGLY FACE...over & over & over ..again.

............Crucify Crucify Crucify

The worst feature of ignorance, Plato tells us, is self satisfaction: "For herein is the evil of ignorance, that he who is neither good nor wise is nevertheless satisfied with himself for he has no desire for that of which he feels no want".
(Symposium)

Gurkha · #**161** 07-19-2007, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

John 3:16.........

More....... lie's and insults.................................

How many Insults/Lies....before someone is banned on this forum???????????

saved to my documents

The only persons who needs to be banned is you and your types, perhaps from the whole human race.

t walgamuth · #**162** 07-19-2007, 08:16 AM

Yipes!

This thread has become......

Intolerable.

Tom W

Gurkha · #**163** 07-19-2007, 08:21 AM

Agreed, my last post in this thread unless something more interesting than incoherent, redundant ramblings turns up.

Zeus · #**164** 07-19-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

Agreed, my last post in this thread unless something more interesting than incoherent, redundant ramblings turns up.

How about this - Matt and Gurka, prove that you are both decent religious types of any sort, with good morals and a sense of decency, and stop this argument here and now. I was going to start handing our infractions, but I honestly don't know where to start. How about 5 each if someone keeps the argument up?

Please and thank you.

tankdriver · #**165** 07-19-2007, 10:44 AM

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Read the thread from the beginning. Gurkha made an assertion that $350 dollar a month is chump change for Indians. I called him on it and proved from a few different sources that that amount is a lot of money over there.

It's not a lot of money over there. It's a lot of money to some people over there.

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I have never been to India, my wife has and so have a few of my students (Japanese business men). They basically said the same thing as your friends.
I wonder why there is such a consensus?

Maybe because visiting isn't really grounds for judging a whole country?

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Then both you and Gurkha got all defensive and blamed the British for India’s problems.

First, I'm not defensive. You made some poor judgements based on a few things you read, and I sought to set the record straight. Second, you clearly missed where I wrote that there is a difference between blame and acknowledging the impact colonialization had.

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What do you mean "us" half-white man? Just kidding.

Seriously, are you American or Indian, surely if you were born and raised in America then "us" could only mean US.

Like every other American, I am the child of immigrants. I don't see how it matters, but I was born, bred, and raised in the good ol' US of A.

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The land was colonized not by the British Empire but a commercial entity, the British East India Company (or Honourable East India Company).

Backed by the full weight of the Empire. Your point?

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That amount of coal, iron, petroleum and bauxit, in my mind, is a wonderful base to launch an industrial revolution from.
The native population in India, or in America for that matter, had exactly the same time through evolution (if you believe in it) to form a nation state, build ocean going ships, develop weapons technology, start and sustain an industrial revolution, explore and discover new lands and make use of their resources as the Europeans did. It didn't happen. It did in Europe. What can I tell you?

What can I tell you? Materials need to be extracted from the ground. It's hard to have an industrial revolution when those in control deny you access to technology and machinery. I suppose you are going to tell me India should have had its industrial revolution 100's of years before Europe and America, because when the Industrial Revolution was going on, the British denied them access through force.

As for why they didn't develop weapons, you got me. Nobody else in the world but the Europeans were as quick to develop technologies for killing people and then put them to use. Fortunately for Indians, they didn't end up like American Indians, but they were conquered. You got me, Indians are inferior by dint of conquest. Indians had different goals and outlook than expansionist conquest and they paid for it.

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As to the shaking off the colonial rule, you brought a perfect example.
The circumstances seem similar, a colony an ocean away, British rule, feelings of being exploited. The US did just that (kicked British butt), but there was never a Boston Tea party in India. Lot of tea but no party.

It was the Indians' inability to put aside tribalism, form a nation and act in unison against an outsider. Had it not been for the British there may well be no India today for there was nothing there but a bunch marauding fiefdoms, warring kings and chieftains that the British so efficiently used against each other. Divide et impera.

I did bring the perfect example, but you seem to have ignored the vast differences. And I dispute your characterization that Indians were a bunch of marauding idiots. This country was a few hundred years ahead of Copernicus, invented the concept of zero, and - though called Arabic numerals - gave you and me the numbers we use today. Yes, they were decentralized. There was never a giant force like the Romans that united by the sword.
Also, one of the differences I mentioned between the British rule of the US and India was that Indians were a native population. The Brits were able to create factions and rivalries as you mentioned. They did it to great effect in Africa as well. Last, I would like to point out that India was under control of the British for less time than America was. The conquest of India to freedom was maybe 40 years longer than British ownership of America.

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As to what not a 100 but 50 years of incredible work habit, determination and
knowledge can bring here are two examples: Germany and Japan.
Both were bombed back to the stone age, especially Germany, had their countries in ruins, lost a large percentage of their male working population yet both were able to overcome the negative effects of defeat, the payment of incredible sums of war reparations and became the leading industrial nations of the world.
Something to chew on:

In addition, Israel exists thanks largely to the 10's of billions of deutsche marks paid by Germany as war reparation.

Do you know who paid most of Germany's (and France's and England's and everyone else in Europe's) debt? We did. We loaned them our money to pay us back with. Then helped in the rebuilding. Funny how no one lent India billions of dollars.

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So stop blaming Europeans for your problems, it is your work habit, inefficient and corrupt government, failing education system that gives you the headaches.

My inefficient and corrupt government, failing education system... I forget, are we talking about America or India now? And you obviously know nothing about the Indian work ethic, I'm not even going to bother with that. It clearly doesn't match Americans', which is why everyone buys American cars.

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Pointing out your shortcomings does not mean I hate you.
The billions of dollars India spent on developing nukes could have provided a few meals to the hungry, heck it would have been enough to build a few more schools, me thinks.

No, it doesn't mean you hate me. But it's awfully easy to point out shortcomings. I could start on America's and go on for weeks. Your smug superiority galls me. First you say they should've advanced in weapons technology earlier, now when they catch up you say they shouldn't waste their money. As for providing meals to the poor and a few more schools I say again, India has 3x the population of the US, and the US still has hungry mouths and stupid people. Given the extreme amount of money in this country and the sparse population, shouldn't both be completely abolished - that is what you expect of India. Get your own house in order before you criticize others.