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TwitchKitty · #31 12-06-2007, 09:32 AM

It's not over until they build walmarts and mcdonalds all around Tehran and Baghdad.

Gurkha · #32 12-06-2007, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

If you trouble yourself to check, you may note taht I have never, ever advocated for the attack on Iran. To me, the CIA's decades-old history of failure argues against believing at face-value, anything they say. That works whether I agree with them on this or that built if intelligence, or not. Perhaps you should seek employment therewith.

B

You don't advocate attack on Iran? Thats a joke for sure. Yet you are admitting failure of CIA which is exactly what Israel is peddling so US can go and shed some more blood and money and fight Israel's proxy war with Iran. Isn't that hypocrisy? Don't worry about my employment, we all know who writes your paycheck.

Gurkha · #33 12-06-2007, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TwitchKitty

It's not over until they build walmarts and mcdonalds all around Tehran and Baghdad.

Yep and don't forget Starbucks as well

Botnst · #34 12-06-2007, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

You don't advocate attack on Iran? Thats a joke for sure. Yet you are admitting failure of CIA which is exactly what Israel is peddling so US can go and shed some more blood and money and fight Israel's proxy war with Iran. Isn't that hypocrisy? Don't worry about my employment, we all know who writes your paycheck.

You haven't been paying attention or are delusional.

Go back and find ANYWHERE in which I have advocated violence toward Iran. While you are at it, find where I have accepted anything from CIA at face value.

B

aklim · #35 12-06-2007, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

You don't advocate attack on Iran? Thats a joke for sure. Yet you are admitting failure of CIA which is exactly what Israel is peddling

so US can go and shed some more blood and money and fight Israel's proxy war with Iran.

Here we go again with the CIA. Are they so good that we can be sure everything they say is right? Are you saying they are 100% correct as always? The gold standard for accuracy amongst their world counterparts? What has history shown us as far as the CIA goes?

Where did any of us say that we should send troops there to fight their war? We give them the money and equipment only for defense. Now, if they choose to use it to bomb a nuke factory that we don't want, so be it. Are you so dead set against Israel that you are willing to cut the nose to spite the face? Do you think it is a good thing that Iran has nukes? I don't.

BTW, thanx for reminding speaking about paychecks. That reminds me I have to go get my paycheck from the Israeli embassy for my support of them for the month of December.

Gurkha · #36 12-06-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Here we go again with the CIA. Are they so good that we can be sure everything they say is right? Are you saying they are 100% correct as always? The gold standard for accuracy amongst their world counterparts? What has history shown us as far as the CIA goes?

Where did any of us say that we should send troops there to fight their war? We give them the money and equipment only for defense. Now, if they choose to use it to bomb a nuke factory that we don't want, so be it. Are you so dead set against Israel that you are willing to cut the nose to spite the face? Do you think it is a good thing that Iran has nukes? I don't.

BTW, thanx for reminding speaking about paychecks. That reminds me I have to go get my paycheck from the Israeli embassy for my support of them for the month of December.

And you assume Israel's word over US's? That means you are telling me that CIA is inferior to Mossad and we should take the word of Israel and its cause as the chosen word of the God and die for them without any questioning.

About giving money, high time they do it on their own and stop milking the already stretched US.

Well don't bother collecting the paycheck from the embassy, just go to the senate, they will give it to you

since they have to give the money to Israel.

Gurkha · #37 12-06-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

You haven't been paying attention or are delusional.

Go back and find ANYWHERE in which I have advocated violence toward Iran. While you are at it, find where I have accepted anything from CIA at face value.

B

Don't have to go back far........

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=200100

aklim · #38 12-06-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

And you assume Israel's word over US's? That means you are telling me that CIA is inferior to Mossad

and we should take the word of Israel and its cause as the chosen word of the God and die for them without any questioning.

About giving money, high time they do it on their own and stop milking the already stretched US.

Well don't bother collecting the paycheck from the embassy, just go to the senate, they will give it to you

since they have to give the money to Israel.

Has the CIA got that good a track record that makes you say that it is infallible? CIA intelligence has not been the greatest of late when it comes to the ME. We have shed HUMINT resources for the gee-whiz high tech stuff and it is coming back to bite us. Why do you think some places are switching to fibre-optics and what not?

Who said we should take the word of Israel as gospel truth? I have never advocated for a god of any sort and I certainly do not advocate dying for a religion. My point is simple. Mossad thinks that Iran has nukes? OK. I'm game. I'll give you a few bucks, let you send your people in to take care of it. Any way you look at it, I am not using my personnel (Delta Force, Seal Teams, etc, etc) to check it out. If you get caught, I get to say "OMG! They did that?? I didn't know". If you don't get caught, I get to know if you are right or wrong. If you are right, it takes care of a problem I have in common with you. If you are wrong, oh well, I'm out a few bucks.

Money brings control. Think my boss can get me to do what he/she wants if they aren't giving me money?

Can't do that. Senate already said they want deniability. With people like you breathing down their necks, they can barely afford to have any more loose ends.

Think of a garden. I don't see a snake there. You tell me there is a nest of vipers there and they are at the far edge of my property, way nearer to your house. OK. Here is $20, you go find out if it is true. If you get bit and die, well, sucks to be you. If you find out there are no snakes, life is good. If you find out there are snakes and take care of it, life is good. I'm only out $20 and you are the one sticking your hands in, NOT ME. It would be different if you are asking me to stick my hands down the hole to see if there are snakes there. What we are talking about is giving somebody money to check out and remove problems we both would have in common but affects you more.

So, do you think that if the CIA were wrong, it is an issue? IOW, if Iran has nukes, is it a good thing for us? Remember, they don't like us either.

Medmech · #39 12-06-2007, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

You haven't been paying attention or are delusional.

Go back and find ANYWHERE in which I have advocated violence toward Iran. While you are at it, find where I have accepted anything from CIA at face value.

B

It's dulsional because there is nothing in the thread he cited..

Gurkha · #40 12-06-2007, 11:17 AM

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It's dulsional because there is nothing in the thread he cited..

The title is delusional to you? France Sees Light on Iran

aklim · #41 12-06-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

The title is delusional to you? France Sees Light on Iran

He did a few cut and pastes on that thread. What of it? Think Iran holds us in the warmest regards? Where did he say "We should be going there to bomb them Iranians"? Where did he say "The CIA should be regarded as the holders of all knowledge and is supremely accurate"?

Gurkha · #42 12-06-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

He did a few cut and pastes on that thread. What of it? Think Iran holds us in the warmest regards? Where did he say "We should be going there to bomb them Iranians"? Where did he say "The CIA should be regarded as the holders of all knowledge and is supremely accurate"?

Oh no he didn't

Check the definition of the word surreptitious. Are you his choir boy now? Let him defend himself, he is quite capable of it

aklim · #43 12-06-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

Oh no he didn't

Check the definition of the word surreptitious. Are you his choir boy now? Let him defend himself, he is quite capable of it

Check out the term "witch hunt". Too bad you are born in this century. A few hundred years ago, you would have given Torquemada a run for his money.

Let me get this straight. If he doesn't say "Lets burn Israel" or agree with you, he, myself or anyone is an agent of Israel?

Gurkha · #44 12-06-2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Check out the term "witch hunt". Too bad you are born in this century. A few hundred years ago, you would have given Torquemada a run for his money.

Let me get this straight. If he doesn't say "Lets burn Israel" or agree with you, he, myself or anyone is an agent of Israel?

Its the other way around, if one is not with Israel and its agenda and acknowledge it as the absolute chosen people, he or she is UN-AMERICAN in that case

Medmech · #45 12-06-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

About giving money, high time they do it on their own and stop milking the already stretched US.

Well don't bother collecting the paycheck from the embassy, just go to the senate, they will give it to you

since they have to give the money to Israel.

If you knew the history of FA to Israel you would know that they have asked the US to stop sending aid but a certain president refused their request.

If India is doing so well why do they have lobbyist on the Capital steps with a collection cup? Once a beggar, always a beggar. We may be able to ween Israel from the cash cows teet but India will always be asking for more.