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Gurkha · #61 12-06-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Again, what sources of free money do you know of?

http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact

Summary
Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630 Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240

Since 1992, the U.S. has offered Israel an additional $2 billion annually in loan guarantees. Congressional researchers have disclosed that between 1974 and 1989, $16.4 billion in U.S. military loans were converted to grants and that this was the understanding from the beginning. Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress, which has undoubtedly helped Israel's often-touted claim that they have never defaulted on a U.S. government loan. U.S. policy since 1984 has been that economic assistance to Israel must equal or exceed Israel's annual debt repayment to the United States. Unlike other countries, which receive aid in quarterly installments, aid to Israel since 1982 has been given in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year, leaving the U.S. government to borrow from future revenues. Israel even lends some of this money back through U.S. treasury bills and collects the additional interest.

The minuscule aid given to India pales in comparison.

aklim · #62 12-06-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

Well it has made every attempt to be self reliant unlike waving the flag and milking and lobbying.

As the FDI indicate on both sides, it was mutually good for both countries. The aid has paid off.

How much of the aid taken by Israel has been paid back to US?

Not interested in the attempts, trials, tribulations. Has India taken free money? Yes or no.

Different story.

Different question.

Jim B. · #63 12-06-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

I don't know about you but in my life, my observations, etc, etc, money has ALWAYS come with some strings attached. Be it from the govt, parents, siblings, friends, etc, etc. Now, if you have a source of totally free money, please let me know.

Your pension.

aklim · #64 12-06-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

How much of the aid taken by Israel has been paid back to US?

OK. Are you saying that there are no black ops or other things that they have done for us in the past?

aklim · #65 12-06-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

Lets forget about Israel and cut them off. Who do you want in that area to do your dirty work?

Gurkha · #66 12-06-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Not interested in the attempts, trials, tribulations. Has India taken free money? Yes or no.

Different story.

Different question.

Question is how much has Israel taken and paid back and the answer is above.

aklim · #67 12-06-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

Question is how much has Israel taken and paid back and the answer is above.

Again, are you saying that you don't need them for black ops and other items of that nature because you have tons of other people lining up for that job opportunity? If I borrowed $200 from you and I pay you back with interest, what do I owe you at the end of the day? What do I owe that "payday loan" shop? Nothing. If I give you money and later you give me the inside track on stocks, would you consider that "giving" money?

Gurkha · #68 12-06-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Lets forget about Israel and cut them off. Who do you want in that area to do your dirty work?

What dirty work? The one Israel concocts and provokes. Why don't they make a serious effort for peace? Wouldn't that totally ruin their agenda so to say. No more US taxpayer's free money.

When it gets real down and dirty, they are contend to let US bear the brunt and do the dirty work anyways.

Gurkha · #69 12-06-2007, 01:38 PM

Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress, which has undoubtedly helped Israel's often-touted claim that they have never defaulted on a U.S. government loan. U.S. policy since 1984 has been that economic assistance to Israel must equal or exceed Israel's annual debt repayment to the United States.

Read that over and over again............

A264172 · #70 12-06-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

... Do intelligence agencies tell us the truth always?

Their job isn't about informing the public, it's about getting info into the hands of the head of state. The CIA... don't hold press conferences.

Gurkha · #71 12-06-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Again, are you saying that you don't need them for black ops and other items of that nature because you have tons of other people lining up for that job opportunity? If I borrowed $200 from you and I pay you back with interest, what do I owe you at the end of the day? What do I owe that "payday loan" shop? Nothing. If I give you money and later you give me the inside track on stocks, would you consider that "giving" money?

Well you can get cheaper 3rd world soliders willing to die for less than $1 a day so why bother and spend all the money, that too based on guilt and provocation, no substantial facts.

http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_7614726

Third world warriors fight U.S. wars - for dollars a day

aklim · #72 12-06-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

What dirty work? The one Israel concocts and provokes.

Why don't they make a serious effort for peace? Wouldn't that totally ruin their agenda so to say.

No more US taxpayer's free money.

When it gets real down and dirty, they are contend to let US bear the brunt and do the dirty work anyways.

Wow! You really think that we don't have any underhanded tricks we pull in the world? Are you naive or what? You live in India. Is it Utopia? I'll bet it has some underhanded tricks it pulls. Every country does. Malaysia to Singapore. Don't agree with us? Fine. We are running out of water to SELL to you. Think Singapore is recycling sewage for fun?

Why don't the Palestinians make a semi serious effort like say 14 days of no bombs?

Again, you must think there is a free lunch. There is NO FREE MONEY. It comes at some expense. There is a bumper sticker that says "Gas, Ass or Grass. Nobody rides for free.". My Dad, since 21 has NOT touched any money he didn't earn. Why? Because he doesn't want to be obligated. Inheritance? No thanx. Money gifts? Thanx but no thanx. Give it to charity. I used to think he was insane till I started receieving "free money". Someday later, I found out this money comes at a price. Think I plowed my neighbor's sidewalk for free? She likes to wear low cut dresses which gives me a good view and a hug when I do. Think I would stop for you if your car broke down? Probably not. What about that hottie that I might get something from? Different story.

Care to tell me what happened on June 7, 1981? I know the USA didn't do anything but it was a good thing for us.

aklim · #73 12-06-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress, which has undoubtedly helped Israel's often-touted claim that they have never defaulted on a U.S. government loan. U.S. policy since 1984 has been that economic assistance to Israel must equal or exceed Israel's annual debt repayment to the United States.

Read that over and over again............

So? Drug dealers give out free samples and sometime freebies when their addicts cannot afford a hit. Why do you think there are 24 hr shops when night traffic is pretty low? Because they don't want you getting the idea to shop elsewhere.

aklim · #74 12-06-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by A264172

Their job isn't about informing the public, it's about getting info into the hands of the head of state. The CIA... don't hold press conferences.

No!!! And I thought that they were there for us to get info from.

Gurkha · #75 12-06-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

So? Drug dealers give out free samples and sometime freebies when their addicts cannot afford a hit. Why do you think there are 24 hr shops when night traffic is pretty low? Because they don't want you getting the idea to shop elsewhere.

Now you are comparing US to drug dealers