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Old 02-06-2008, 05:20 PM
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Thanks for posting that. I was beginning to feel bad for posting the comment earlier about the southern states. Glad to see this chart…. I thought I had heard it correctly.

Now….
I’ve said it here before.
And now, I’ll say it again.
Here’s all you need to know.

It’s called the common sense diet.

Everyone stand up, and repeat after me.

(Point at your mouth)
“This hole….”

(Now point at your butt)

“…is bigger than this hole.”

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Old 02-06-2008, 05:55 PM
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:16 PM
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I guess that doesn’t surprise me.

The other night I saw a show on TV about the rates of heart attacks and obesity related health issues going through the roof in certain areas of our country. Mainly the southern gulf states (around you) where fried foods are pretty much the norm.
It really got into state health care costs.

I suppose if they can pass laws regarding where you can and can’t smoke. They can regulate where you can and can’t eat as well.

Not sure how they will set the lines though. Smoking – You either are, or you’re not.

How obese is too obese to eat at Joe’s Fried Fish and Slaw House, is anyone’s guess.
So with all the laws coming to save us from ourselves from things like second hand smoke, smoking, transfats, eating too much, etc... What do you do when a study like this comes along and shows that there is a thing that many people do that increases the risk of heart attack in people 326%; if you've already got heart issues the risk doubles. Should we outlaw this because it puts a strain on the health care system?
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:10 PM
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Get everybody fat and smoking, the average lifespan will drop back into the mid 60's and watch those healthcare costs start to drop.
You should run for prez. You just fixed social security.
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if only they would apply the same bans to movie theaters and airplane seats. i love paying way too much for tickets for either only to have to lean out into the aisle for the entire flight/movie/whatever. i thought the airlines at least had the ability to force passengers to buy two seats if they were excessively large, but i have yet to see it enforced.

i suppose you guys already saw this (sorry if it was already posted):

http://www.southtownstar.com/lifestyles/lifefamily/726715,0110buffet.article
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:38 AM
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ee gads, the nanny state!

even if it does pass, compliance will be a joke as will be enforcement. as if cops have nothing better to do than to escort an obese patron out of a restaurant.

scenario:

restaurant to obese father with family of 4 who are not all obese: sorry, you cant eat here, but the rest of your family can.

father: "family, lets go somewhere else to eat."
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:40 AM
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So with all the laws coming to save us from ourselves from things like second hand smoke, smoking, transfats, eating too much, etc... What do you do when a study like this comes along and shows that there is a thing that many people do that increases the risk of heart attack in people 326%; if you've already got heart issues the risk doubles. Should we outlaw this because it puts a strain on the health care system?
Well, considering that we asked for the govt to take care of our healthcare, they do have the right to insist we do things to cut down their cost.
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Well, considering that we asked for the govt to take care of our healthcare, they do have the right to insist we do things to cut down their cost.

maybe you meant "we asked for the govt to help with our healthcare" (i.e. universal health care), but even then, not all americans are asking for our govt to help with it.

that said, youre right that if they pay for it, they should be within their right to make it prohibitively expensive for those people who do not treat their bodies correctly. however, that gets back to the argument of benchmarking, compliance and enforcement. how messed up will that process be like?

..i can hear Cartman saying "I'm not fat, I'm just big boned!"
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:51 AM
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maybe you meant "we asked for the govt to help with our healthcare" (i.e. universal health care), but even then, not all americans are asking for our govt to help with it.

that said, youre right that if they pay for it, they should be within their right to make it prohibitively expensive for those people who do not treat their bodies correctly. however, that gets back to the argument of benchmarking, compliance and enforcement. how messed up will that process be like?
No but enough have asked for it that they developed Medicare, Medicaid, etc, etc.

Like the spook movie where the kids call for the devil to do their bidding. Now the devil comes back and wants his cut. We asked for help and now the govt is asking that we do this, that or the other to lower the risk. Seem familiar?

Should have NEVER asked the govt for help.
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Well, considering that we asked for the govt to take care of our healthcare, they do have the right to insist we do things to cut down their cost.
Who's "we" Kemosabe?

I don't want the Government in my healthcare. I want to stay healthy!
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Who's "we" Kemosabe?

I don't want the Government in my healthcare. I want to stay healthy!
Somebody wanted the govt to create Medicare and Medicaid.
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No but enough have asked for it that they developed Medicare, Medicaid, etc, etc.

Like the spook movie where the kids call for the devil to do their bidding. Now the devil comes back and wants his cut. We asked for help and now the govt is asking that we do this, that or the other to lower the risk. Seem familiar?

Should have NEVER asked the govt for help.
yeah, not a big fan of the govt getting into everything, but some things.

as i recall, medicare was developed for retired folks who cannot work because they've reached retirement age. but i dont see the same reasoning holding true here in this obese people banning law as (just guessing here) most of the people are not going to be retired, obese people.

on the medicare/SSI issue, i think every country should have such a system to help out people who have paid into it with their taxes.
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yeah, not a big fan of the govt getting into everything, but some things.

as i recall, medicare was developed for retired folks who cannot work because they've reached retirement age. but i dont see the same reasoning holding true here in this obese people banning law as (just guessing here) most of the people are not going to be retired, obese people.

on the medicare/SSI issue, i think every country should have such a system to help out people who have paid into it with their taxes.
I prefer to keep them out.

But what happens at retirement? They suddenly going to lose all the weight? More likely that it will cause them to develop health conditions which will manifest itself throughout their lives especially when they get older, say retirement time.

Better to do it yourself than invite an entity to take care of it for you.

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